Hello Earthlings...

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

Ok...Here's the deal.
I have said this way too many times but, I'll say it again...the wife ain't puttin out and hasn't for a looooong time.:(

So, I've been shoppin for awhile. (didn't want to but...the hand is getting old!). I've had my eye on this blonde at the gym I workout at and we've had some good talks over the past few weeks. She's been real friendly...touchy feely kinda girl and she's a only couple of years younger than me so we have a lot in common.
Well, I thought this might be the one for me!:D

Anyway, I'm at the gym this morning and this little brunette that I've had casual conversation with, comes up and starts getting real personal with the questions and conversation....I don't know where this is coming from but, what the hell, I'll talk! We talked for awhile about life...marriage (and I did tell her I was married...well, I told her my wife was married anyhow!). Then she asked if I'd want to have a cup of coffee after we were through training.

Wow! This floored me...I kinda stumbled with a yes and so, we went for coffee.

Our converstaion went all over the place but, landed on my marriage and her not seeing anyone right now...go figure! I wanted to be honest with her so I told her how my marriage was good but, the sex life was basically dead.
Now, your probably not going to believe this (cause I didn't even though I was there!!!!) but, she told me that we could go back to her apartment and she would take care of me...........

Guys this gal is very, very attractive. She's only 28yrs old and I'm really afraid of that! She's intelligent, beautiful eyes and a petite build. I'd love to just carry her around on my dick and fuck all day...hell, I'd even walk aound outside, mow the lawn do the yard work with her hung on! Not to mention I think she has that soft pubic hair...you know like a horses nose. I'd eat on her all day and night!:la: :lf

Well, I chickened out...for today! I don't know that I'll have another chance but, I also don't know if I should. She is really young! :(

I was looking for some gal that was in my same position...no sex at home but, basically happy and not wanting to leave home...no strings!
This gal is single, young and I'm afraid...really afraid something might go haywire!

What would you do...be honest here...think with the big head guys, and gals give me your opinion please!

[junkyarddawg]

:blowjob: anyone looking for some afternoon delight?

[Zpanther]

Well Wiggle. You got yourself a dilemma..... but a good one. I've had a little bit of experience with this sorta thing with women about the same age as this one..... and I'm older than you are. Every situation is different, but you asked so I'll give ya my 2 cents. You are right to be cautious. First I'm not sure exactly sure what you mean by 'things might go haywire'... but it sounds like you want to stay married but need some sex with a real woman at least once in awhile. In othe words, sounds like things are already a little 'haywire.' I'm assuming you've talked to your wife about your frustration, but if you haven't you should. My wife was like that for a few years and she went to a doctor who prescribed some hormone replacements. Holy COW! May not work for everyone, but it sure did for her. She takes those and exericises every day. She can't get it often enough now, but that's another story.... just suggesting you might encourage your wife to do that. What I've done when I've found myself in similar situations is discuss it with my wife AND tell the 3rd party that she knows - so there's no misunderstandings, but I also recognize that might not work so well for everyone.... a lotta wives might not be real understanding in that situation. I've got a good one and I know it.

As far as the situation with the woman you met in the gym. You might be thinking 'why would she be genuinely interested in sex with a guy 20 years older?... or maybe concerned that she would want a serious long term relationhsip.' Sometimes it DOES seem too good to be true, but it really CAN be what it appears. It's very possible she doesn't want any strings either - and a married guy may be just what she's looking for. I would suggest you talk to her a little bit about that, so she understands you're not looking to dump your wife, just because the sex isn't so good right now - if that's the case. But don't get too carried away with that either. It's very important to be honest with her so she knows your situation, but sometimes it can turn them off if you spend too much time hesitating and wringing your hands. If she's 28, she's no longer a 'girl'..... definitely old enough to know what she wants and likes. Don't assume she doesn't know what she's doing or what the consequences could be.... she more than likely knows exactly what she's doing and wants. We all want partners with emotional maturity, but that doesn't have too much to do with chronological age.

From your description it sounds like you ran into someone who is obviously interested in you and needs or wants sex as much as you do. Anytime you get involved sexually with a second partner it makes life more complicated...just goes with the territory. BUT the complication might be worth it...You have to make your own decision about what to do about it. She's put the ball in your court by offering to take you back to her apartment.

[Heaterman]

Do you drive a fancy car? :( Remember the movie Fatal Attraction and what happened to him. Protect any small animals you have at home :D

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

Zpanther, GOOD advice...well taken! Thanks


Heaterman...your scarin me man! I had thoughts of bad things but I forgot about fatal attraction. Thanks for the memory jog...I think!

[Big O]

I would be afraid that my wife put her up to this to see if I would cheat or not. I think that if i ever do cheat I'll be he one doing the asking!

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

Don't think the wife knows her but, you could be right. I actually mulled that over...one of my first thoughts!:mad:

I'm gonna play this out for awhile...kind of lay back and see what transpires over time. I've been weighing the situation out all day...really would like to have some fun with her but ther are a lot of risks involved. Her age is what's really quering the deal!

[Norfolkdave]

Well Im a hot bloodied guy and Im looking for afternoon fun with uk and usa ladies come now I dont bite unless of course you want me to MMMMM

[Zpanther]

hmmmmm. ... not sure why her age should be an obstacle. Sounds like she's an attractive woman and, even though I subscribe to the old adage that many women don't reach their sexual prime until they hit 30, there are definitely 28 year old women that are mature enough to know what they want and like and how to satisfy a partner. My experiences with younger women about that age have been positive. Now if you were thinking about a LTR or marriage with someone that much younger, there would be a lot more things to consider. I have several friends and former colleagues that have married women 20+ years younger and they have had some pretty serious obstacles to overcome.... probably doesn't work out in the long run more than it does, but that's not the issue here.

Don't misunderstand though. I wouldn't encourage someone that's married to see this or any other woman without the knowledge and consent of their wife.... People do that all the time, but in my opinion it's a bad idea that can lead to a lot of grief and disappointment. Might be better to concentrate on encouraging your wife to discuss your sexual relationship - your current dissatisfaction and what options are acceptable to both of you to improve it.

[2pleaseu1953]

Just remember what could have happened. LOL
I would have a few more cups of coffee with her and establish a friendship.....now thats my second thought....my first thought (dickhead) was following her lead and having the best time of my life!
:satan:

[Zpanther]

Wiggle,

Guess I should tell ya this. Was talking to my wife about this when she came home from work. She said to tell you to quit agonizing about it and fuck her before she changes her mind.... so that's one woman's opinion for you to consider I guess. (I'm trying to convince her to post her own opinions on here, but no luck so far).

[Penny]

Tell your wife this is safe sex ;)

I don't know what to tell you but alimony and child support last a long time :( Not to mention this girl could be looking for a sugar daddy. She may even blackmale you later. Or it could be she finds you attractive and is looking to share her bad case of herpes with a special someone;)

[Penny]

Hey junkyarddawg what do you consider afternoon delight? Tell us what you would do if you had a sexy woman show up at your door wearing nothing but a smile :)

[Unregistered]

Just remember what could have happened. LOL
I would have a few more cups of coffee with her and establish a friendship.....now thats my second thought....my first thought (dickhead) was following her lead and having the best time of my life!
:satan:

Yeah, My first thought was the same!
I might regret it either way!

[Unregistered]

Wiggle,

Guess I should tell ya this. Was talking to my wife about this when she came home from work. She said to tell you to quit agonizing about it and fuck her before she changes her mind.... so that's one woman's opinion for you to consider I guess. (I'm trying to convince her to post her own opinions on here, but no luck so far).

Zpanther, I like your wife's style too! LOL She's got moxy!!!!

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

Old Dumb Ass here forgot to log in on the last two so, those are mine!


Penny,
You've made some valid points although, my kids are grown and out of the house so, child support is non-applicable. I did think about the disease factor:(
I have a lot to consider and I'm not jumping in yet!

[Zpanther]

That's funny. My wife was reading these and said, see who that 'unregistered guest' was. Too bad you're so far away Wiggle. I think she'd be happy to help ya out.... and I'm sure you'd leave satisfied. .... maybe if I can get this damn 'beamer' fixed... ya never know.

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

Wow! I'm flattered...been hit on twice in one day...what to do...what to do!;)

You should talk her into posting on here. She sounds like fun!

[Zpanther]

My wife wants to know.... you say you can make her toes wiggle....... but can you make 'em curl until her feet cramp?

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

Well...I dunno? I had a girlfriend that I put a cramp in her leg from her stiffening up when she had her orgasm. She got kinda mad but them reciprocated with one hell of a BJ so, I guess she wasn't too mad!I've been out of action for so long I might not even be able to make your wife's toes move!!!!:mad:

Come on Mrs. Zpanther...get on here and have some fun! Ya never know...your toes might get wiggled!:lf :kk

[out4fun2nite]

if you are planning to fool around my rule is not to do that with a single woman.she might get attached to you and screw up your life since she got nothing to lose.play with someone who is married so she will think twice before doing something dum.

[mesohorny]

Always looking!

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

Yeah, that was what I was looking for...thought I found her but, then this one popped up! I aggree with you totally!!!!!

[Unregistered]

Penny,
You've made some valid points although, my kids are grown and out of the house so, child support is non-applicable. I did think about the disease factor:( I have a lot to consider and I'm not jumping in yet!



And make sure she doesn't get pregnant, then the child support would start...oh my .

Poor Mr. Wiggle...you need some lovin...

[MCat]

And make sure she doesn't get pregnant, then the child support would start...oh my .

Poor Mr. Wiggle...you need some lovin...


Damn...forgot to log in, that was me :)

[Norfolkdave]

Well penny what would you do if some guy came to your front door wearing just a bow tie and a big smile?????

[Norfolkdave]

If your not getting it at home as long as your discreet and careful I really cant see the problem, I do realise its an awkward situation and I agree with other members too, the finer points, but its ok for these people to have a healthy sex life, and I understand their points of views too, but if your sexy and not getting it what are you supposed to do, continue building up stress until you explode, no I say hand on heart go for it, tell the lady that you were sorry and chickened out tell her the truth as you have done and Im sure you,ll be in heaven gently. I know because I have a wife who hasnt been interested in sex for many years so I know its hard and tough.

[Penny]

I would drop to my knees and make him feel like a man :blowjob:

[Zpanther]

Well Wiggles, it's a wild world out there. Lotsa fish in the sea. There are playful dolphins and tasty tuna .... but there are hungry sharks and vicous crocs as well. It's definitely safer to stay on the boat. Pays to be cautious. In fact your life might depend on it. But sometimes that water looks awful inviting..... especially if there's nothing happenin' on the boat. If you decide to go swimming, just remember to wear your wetsuit and attach a lifeline...... and don't forget your spear. :wa:

[Big O]

Great post Z!! I'm sitting here lmoa!

[Penny]

LOL that is funny :D

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

If your not getting it at home as long as your discreet and careful I really cant see the problem, I do realise its an awkward situation and I agree with other members too, the finer points, but its ok for these people to have a healthy sex life, and I understand their points of views too, but if your sexy and not getting it what are you supposed to do, continue building up stress until you explode, no I say hand on heart go for it, tell the lady that you were sorry and chickened out tell her the truth as you have done and Im sure you,ll be in heaven gently. I know because I have a wife who hasnt been interested in sex for many years so I know its hard and tough.

Thanks, Hotdave! At least you know where I'm coming from...a lot to think about!

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

Damn...forgot to log in, that was me :)

Hey Marycat...thought about that one too. One of the reasons I'm concerned about her age! And the fact that she is single!

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

Well Wiggles, it's a wild world out there. Lotsa fish in the sea. There are playful dolphins and tasty tuna .... but there are hungry sharks and vicous crocs as well. It's definitely safer to stay on the boat. Pays to be cautious. In fact your life might depend on it. But sometimes that water looks awful inviting..... especially if there's nothing happenin' on the boat. If you decide to go swimming, just remember to wear your wetsuit and attach a lifeline...... and don't forget your spear. :wa:

Again Zpanther, I like your style man! I guess I can taste all I want to!
Remember the saying "eatin ain't cheatin":la: :D :blowjob:
Have you convinced Mrs Z to join in on the fun yet? Tell her I'll try to make her toes wiggle if she gets on board here!:la: :whee:

[flirt_partner]

Personally, I would rather a woman NOT turn up at the front door totally naked. I would rather the neighbours not see that. However, wearing a pair of soft, sexy knickers and stockings under a coat- now I could handle that.

[flirt_partner]

Well, as some other posters have already said be careful of the single partner. Lets not get this all one sided either. Single men can be as much trouble for a married woman as the other way round- they have nothing to lose if they mess up your life. Maybe they will do it anyway if you break up- just to get back at you.

[Leefromnj]

great post...my thoughts are this.
JUST SAY NO...

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

Well, as some other posters have already said be careful of the single partner. Lets not get this all one sided either. Single men can be as much trouble for a married woman as the other way round- they have nothing to lose if they mess up your life. Maybe they will do it anyway if you break up- just to get back at you.

Yep! I agree...thought the same thing myself!

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

great post...my thoughts are this.
JUST SAY NO...you need a situation like yours...she MUST be married too and have just as much to lose...i know it's tough...i've been there...but be strong

Ah, come on Lee...no right off the bat! I thought you might at least give me a "think about it" or a "throw her down lick her and send her on her way".

Your right man, It's tough though...the wife ain't giving me any and I'm frustrated as hell.
I think if YOU seen this woman you might think differently though. She is hot and petite...the kind ya really just want to carry around the house and fuck all day! She's single so, that scares me too...at least she said she is?

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

Okay,

Little miss hot stuff was at the gym this morning...we talked casually and to my surprise she didn't act upset or stand-offish.
She did ask me if things were better at home and if I had thought about her at all. Well...I had to be honest and tell her YES! I thought about her. How can I not think about her!:whee:
I don't know how many of you guys and gals have been to a gym but, I was doing some lat pull downs and she positioned herserself right next to me on the cable crossover machine to do some tricep extentions.....anyway, she put her pert little ass damn near in my face. I had to look...no stare, to see what I'm missing out on and as luck would have it she caught me! Too many damn mirrorrs in that place!:mad:
She just turned and smiled at me...she knows I'm hurtin here!
Before she left she came over to say goodbye and asked if we could "coffee" again soon...being the horny dumb ass that I am I said yes.

I think if my dick could have talked it would have answered for me...who knows at one point it might have told her something. I was rock hard watchin her little ass all poked out there just thinking about how moist and soft she was. Maybe she'll go for just oral? :la: :blowjob: Yeah, like I'm gonna be able to not fuck her after we get started...I don't think so!

So, I guess I'll be in a spot again soon...am I a dumb ass or what?

[Zpanther]

Looks like u r going swimmin' Wiggles... She sounds like she's hot after some Italian sausage...

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

You crack me up ZP!:rofl1: :rofl1: :rofl1:

I don't now how tuna and italian sausage go together but, I do know I like tuna!:la: :D :lf
Hopefully she likes italian sausage...or at least a cream filled meat roll!:blowjob:

[Big O]

Well Wiggs, I think I was wrong. When you have coffee with her just lay it all on the line. tell her that you aren't looking for anything more than some afternoon delight and ask her if she is looking for the same. If she says yes, then go for it. Lucky Bastard!

[Penny]

Think with the big head not the little head ;)

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

Ya know! I'm hoping it's that easy...I was kinda hoping she would have blown me off so that I was done with this. God knows I'm not strong enough to let go that easily so, she would have done me a huge favor to be pissed off at me and not talk to me anymore!

I'd stay away from the gym but, I can't afford to...if I get outta sinc I'll drop off and not go back for awhile and man, I don't want to do that!

My thoughts were the same as yours after today...just be honest (which I have been) tell her NO strings, and see what she says.

But, I have to get the nerve to do that...in my mind I can say and do anything but, when it comes down to it...the truth is if she's ok with it, I'll still have a hard time doing it! I mean there is a lot on the line here, not just some fun and go. It could get messy...I could fall for her just as well as her for me.

Remember my situation here... been married for 25yrs. ..wifey is not been active for a looooooong time...kids are grown and gone...this might turn out to be one of those middle-age crisis things! I jumped the fence once years ago...a loooooooong time ago, because of this very thing. I'll be honest with you, I've regreted it ever since!

I appreciate your advice...:D

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

Think with the big head not the little head ;)

Penny, Penny, Penny...if it were you...I would have jumped in the gym! ;) You would have thought you had taken a shower...you would have been wet from head to toes...they would have had to pull me off of you babe!:D

I know, I know...but, all the blood rushes to the little head and the big one don't work right!:whee:

[flirt_partner]

Think with the big head not the little head ;)
No truer word has been spoken.

[Onehttmama]

Z ! I think I gotta save a copy of your last post! That was an awesome summation of this entire Thread!

I also am LMAO! I just loved it! :rofl1: :D


Maybe its cause I live near the water and also love to go deep sea fishing;)




****OOPS! missed the next page Z I'm referring to your synopsis #23 ******

[Penny]

I like messing with the neighbors :)

[SouthernCumfort]

Neighbors might want to join in

[Penny]

Not my neighbors lol

[Cindy]

So how did it turn out?

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

So how did it turn out?

Haven't "coffeed" with her again yet...maybe today...more than likely Thurs. or Fri. I'll let you know.

Where ya been Cindy? It's good to see you around again!;)
I still would like to know why/when/where I look familiar to you.

[Cindy]

I would swear I know you from somewhere

[Unregistered]

hello room

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

I would swear I know you from somewhere


I have to tell you Cindy, if I knew you I would not forget you...but, I suffer from CRS lately so, I don't know!
I think your pulling my leg!:D

[Eomer]

Having had a similar experience I was going to reply with a somewhat lengthy post but Zpanther summed it up pretty well. I think he and I have the same wife?

Penny had a point too as well as others. You don’t know this girls intentions. Tread carefuly and talk honestly with her if you value your marriage.

[Eomer]

Ya know! I'm hoping it's that easy...I was kinda hoping she would have blown me off so that I was done with this. God knows I'm not strong enough to let go that easily so, she would have done me a huge favor to be pissed off at me and not talk to me anymore!

I'd stay away from the gym but, I can't afford to...if I get outta sinc I'll drop off and not go back for awhile and man, I don't want to do that!

My thoughts were the same as yours after today...just be honest (which I have been) tell her NO strings, and see what she says.

But, I have to get the nerve to do that...in my mind I can say and do anything but, when it comes down to it...the truth is if she's ok with it, I'll still have a hard time doing it! I mean there is a lot on the line here, not just some fun and go. It could get messy...I could fall for her just as well as her for me.

Remember my situation here... been married for 25yrs. ..wifey is not been active for a looooooong time...kids are grown and gone...this might turn out to be one of those middle-age crisis things! I jumped the fence once years ago...a loooooooong time ago, because of this very thing. I'll be honest with you, I've regreted it ever since!

I appreciate your advice...:D

I feel your pain man. Have been there. Yes things can get out of hand and not just on her side. If you have any doubts, don't do it.

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

I feel your pain man. Have been there. Yes things can get out of hand and not just on her side. If you have any doubts, don't do it.

Wish it were that easy...doubt has kept me away from her so far but, I am a weak man right now and if she pushes I might push back...and forth ...and upside down even!:D

I'll find out Weds....we coffee again after the gym...she asked again today and I was pissed at the wife, so I accepted. May not be a good thing, I don't know.

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

I would swear I know you from somewhere

OK Cindy...I think I figured it out! I was looking at your pics and damn I remembered a night way back when.

You and I were at a party...as usual I was searching the place for the best looking woman there. I found her...it was you! We talked about our lives, the weather and how much we both liked the music that was playing. As a matter of fact we danced together.
We settled out on the deck and we listened to the ocean...there were a million stars out that night and we both remarked how peacful it would be to be among them. We kissed and went down to the beach...we undressed each other slowly...I went down on you and couldn't believe how sweet you tasted. You began to wiggle and moan as you climaxed with the most intense orgasm I've ever seen a woman have. We made love for hours and fell asleep in each others arms...under the stars.

Then I woke up!:D
Come on your killin me here...have you ever been to Colorado?

[Eomer]

Lol

[MCat]

Damn that was really good writing....I think we all want to pretend we know you from somewhere :)

[aceofspades1114]

Well wiggles you do have yourself in a situation.

You got to weigh both sides for you.

Pro's

Get your needs taken care of which you aren't getting
Have fun
Make friends after if the fling ever ends
Con's


Your wife can find out, and if she doesn't like it divorce and which would mean you can pay a pretty penny on the case
The person who you are having a fling with might turn out to be sibble and be a crazy ass lady.
Those there are the main ones that are coming to mind.

[Eomer]

Getting Divorced is no picnic there wiggles. it only changes the relationship it does not end it. Additionally it leaves you with extra baggae you have to carry into your next relationship. Think about this long an hard.

The temporary escape always looks easiest but it could bear a heavier burden in the long run. Its harder to do the right thing now, but will makelife easier later.

Be strong man, I am with you.

[GeekMaster]

Your neighbors must be real prudes!!:blowjob:

[bushybill83]

Yes an afternoon delight would be nice...so would a predawn delight, midmorning delight:D .


To answer Penny's Q: I would scoop her up in my arms and carry her inside. Lay her down on the couch and begin to kiss and lick her until she was crossed eyed with pleasure:la: .

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

Damn that was really good writing....I think we all want to pretend we know you from somewhere :)

Hey! Marycat, where have you been? I missed you:( :wa:

Thank you! She Cindy has really got my curiosity up(not to mention something else!:D ) and I'm trying to get her to talk!

I think she's teasing me!:lf

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

Well wiggles you do have yourself in a situation.


You got to weigh both sides for you.

Pro's

Get your needs taken care of which you aren't getting
Have fun
Make friends after if the fling ever ends
Con's


Your wife can find out, and if she doesn't like it divorce and which would mean you can pay a pretty penny on the case
The person who you are having a fling with might turn out to be sibble and be a crazy ass lady.
Those there are the main ones that are coming to mind.

ACE! I hear you on all counts...good points!:D

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

Getting Divorced is no picnic there wiggles. it only changes the relationship it does not end it. Additionally it leaves you with extra baggae you have to carry into your next relationship. Think about this long an hard.

The temporary escape always looks easiest but it could bear a heavier burden in the long run. Its harder to do the right thing now, but will makelife easier later.

Be strong man, I am with you.


Yeah, I know!
I need a release...and I'm a now kinda guy. I'm still OK but, I coffee with her tomorrow...so, We'll see what tomorrow brings!
I appreciate it man.

[Eomer]

Hey no prob, any time, I almost did the physical thing with a lady I knew, we cybered for a while it started getting seriouse I had to pull the plug and tell the wife. The lady in question was devistated, I knew then I did the right thing. My wife at first was excited beyond belief, but after reality set in that wore off quick.

The emotinal thing can be just as damaging if not more so then the physical. I have been there, trust me.

I know its hard, there where times I felt like I was going to explode or loose my mind, if she where right there in front of me, I would have been done in.

As far as advice, Its hard for me to say bro, I dont know all the details of your life and or your relationship with your wife. You may be better off going with the flow, But I would caultion you on the side of NO. Especially if you have kids. If there are issues and your wife does not want to work them out or can't at least you can sleep having maintained your one dignity knwoing that you did the right thing the best you knew how. Even if things dont work out with your wife, at least that way it will be easier to move on with your own life without your wife taking you foreverything you have.

[MCat]

Hey! Marycat, where have you been? :( :wa:

!:lf

Busy weekend....had to move the computer so I could lay a new floor. Just got it hooked back up last night. Sounds like you might be on your way to a little nookie...careful.:wa:

[Sink]

its one of those touch and go situations one wrong move and u loose everything, but play ur cards right and u don't loose anything but a head ache

[Sunshine]

Was hoping for an update lol. Wiggletoes how did it go?

[Zpanther]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooh SUNSHINE! Just noticed your new pic. MUCH better than the kitten! :lf

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

Was hoping for an update lol. Wiggletoes how did it go?

Here it is Sunshine...

Coffee with the the hottie at the gym...interesting...scary as hell...confusing and down right nerve racking!

Well, she met me outside the gym and wanted to go straight to coffee. I'm thinking if I'm going to have sex with her I don't want to be sweaty and stinky so, I said yes.
The damn coffee shop wasn't open yet, FIGURES! She suggested going to her place and I got real nervous. I'm telling you I felt like a school boy virgin. I asked if we could sit in either of our cars/truck and talk this out until they opened and she obliged...but, her car.
We talked for about 20 mins and she asked if we could just go to her place...she felt awkward in the car and I said OK. Man, I was really apprehensive about this. When we got to her apartment she asked if we could sit at the table in the kitchen to talk. Whew, not what I expected but good. We resumed our conversation and got into my marriage and the problem that exists and I was totally honest and upfront (just like before). She told me that she hadn't had a serious relationship for several years and she was really tired of the younger guys. They were all "dickheads" and she needed to be with someone that was more mature and knew what a woman wanted.
I was really getting nervous and excited and the same time...I was ready to freak out and leave.
She continued, and told me how she had noticed me talking to the blond and overheard some of our conversations. She apologized for eavesdropping and said that she thought I was attractive( I think she has eyesight problems!) and a nice guy. Well, I kinda blushed and told her that she was way younger than me and I felt insecure with this and I didn't know that I could do it.
At that point she reached over and grabbed my hand and squeezed gently and said that she would not want me to feel bad about what we would do together and that she surely wouldn't want me to feel trapped or obligated to her.
I have to tell you, looking into her eyes and feeling her touch, that I almost melted right there.
I told her that any NORMAL man would have not hesitated because she is beautiful and sincere but, that I had not made a decision and I guess I'm not a normal guy.
I then told her that I was in a really difficult situation here and I had a lot to lose if I fell in love with her or something else happened. She said that she understood but, again she wouldn't hold me to anything and that she didn't want a relationship just some "fun" with a man, not a boy. God! This made it hard for me to say no.
I cannot believe I did this but, I told her I was a mess right now and that I was extremely sorry but, I couldn't do this.
She then let go of my hand and said she understood...that I didn't know what I was missing out on and leaned over and gave me the hottest kiss that I have had in years.
I couldn't stand up to leave until I went down...if ya know what I mean. She smiled and asked me again if I was sure...I said yes and left. She gave me a soft goodbye kiss before I left..that killed me.
My God! She smelled good and she is beautiful...
When I got out to my truck, it took every fiber in my being to turn that key and leave.
I had to go to work just to get my mind off of it, but I gotta tell you I'm not looking forward to the gym and I'm NOT going to forget about this...ever!

I don't know if any of you are familiar with the group Foreigner but, I had their greatest hit disc in my stereo and what a mistake that was...songs like "I've Been Waiting For A Girl Like You" ..."Urgent"... I had to take that out in a hurry!

Soooo I chickened out!
Don't know that I would have if it were you Sunshine...I dated a girl back in Highschool that looked like you. She didn't have as much on top as you but she looked a lot like you...from what your pic shows anyway.

[Eomer]

HEY Wiggles,

And you thought you didnot have it in you. Hell I am not so sure I could have walked away.

Proud of you man. Depresed as hell for you but proud of you.

Damn now I am confused.

[quax999]

Now, i haven't read all the posts here, but I think i've read enough. No matter how bad my sex life was with my wife, I could never have my way with another, now in this town any how. My wife was born and raised and has lived here all her life. Not even with her worst enemy could i do any thing.

I'd be leary, about the younger girl. Check, and find out what you can before continuing forward.

[Onehttmama]

WOW Wiggles !
Scoop me up off of the floor! What an opportunity and what will power. You must really love your wife. All this time without sex and you were sitting in HOTTIEs house with her, and stayed faithful. I know thats what my hubby would do, his faith is that strong and his word on his wedding vowels will not be broken.

That musta been some KISS ::kk.

;) Soo if I could :hug: you and ::kk you and take care of you :blowjob: would you turn me down too!!?
:la: :D I just had to ask, you wouldn't regrett it!

[Zpanther]

hahahahahaahahaha...... we sure are strange creatures sometimes aren't we? I know this is a serious issue, but I couldn't help but laugh. I 'spose because I've been in a similar situation and did the same damn thing. You wanna do it in the worst way, but it just doesn't feel right. I love to flirt and tease, but on a few occasions I've had the girl say, 'okay.... you want some of this... let's go... right now.' That was in a work situation and I've always stayed away from those. Seen too many of those relationships get ugly.

I think you made the right decision, if only because you didn't feel right about it.

[Big O]

Hey Wiggs, thanks for sharing that with us. I was wondering when this would all come to a head. When I read the part about you going home with her I said "Well he's going to do it!". I couldn't believe it when I read that you walked away. I'm envious that you were in that situation and not me. It must make you feel good to know that you are still turning the girls on, and that you made the right decision also.
BigO

[Onehttmama]

well said Z, If you are gonna say yes, absolutely NOT with a co-worker! And yeah, sometimes flirting comes right back at cha, when you least expect someone to take you up on it!!;)

[Penny]

Proud of you :kk

[Wet Beaver]

that took a lot of will power on your part. Very proud of you :kk

[Kevin]

I got a question I undertsand taking the "high road" and being a good boy buy how long are we supposed to deny ourselves the sexual satisfaction that our wives refuse to give us? Do we as good guys just hang in there unhappy and unsatisfied indefinatly?
Divorce would equal me never getting to see my son(she has said that much)
and while I know that she cant really deny me visitation, I live in california and here if you are a single dad you might as well be a drug dealer cause thats how they treat you like a criminal, so this scares me. I feel like my son is the only reason to stay. The wife and I dont get along anymore,sex well you know..lol, and we never go anywhere together anymore and just have fun, this is not what I signed up for!!!
And as the months(yes months)with no sex wear on my resolve to stay faithfull get smaller and smaller. I have tried everything I can think of. At this point I have pretty much givin up and have resigned myself to being at least partially miserable till my son is 18. Maybe someday I will find a women in the same situation and we could help each other...lol I dont actively look but the fantasy has been with me now for quite some time.....I am soooo confused and my desperation only makes it worse.
Any suggestions?????????

[Penny]

Hi Kevin, thank you for posting :kk

What is the reason for no sex and not getting along anymore. Can you think of something that started it all. Usually stuff like that is started by something really trivial. :(

[Penny]

Fill out a profile here (sorry that site is not working correctly. when its fixxed I will let you know) Its free to do and who knows maybe that person your looking for will find you there :)

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

HEY Wiggles,

And you thought you didnot have it in you. Hell I am not so sure I could have walked away.

Proud of you man. Depresed as hell for you but proud of you.

Damn now I am confused.

I didn't either and to be honest, if it happened again I don't know that I could say no!
Thanks man, you think you're depressed...the wife is still not letting go and I'm thinking I made a huge mistake!
Confused is my middle name..no, hell! it's my first name my second and third are Dumb Ass!

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

WOW Wiggles !
Scoop me up off of the floor! What an opportunity and what will power. You must really love your wife. All this time without sex and you were sitting in HOTTIEs house with her, and stayed faithful. I know thats what my hubby would do, his faith is that strong and his word on his wedding vowels will not be broken.

That musta been some KISS ::kk.

;) Soo if I could :hug: you and ::kk you and take care of you :blowjob: would you turn me down too!!?
:la: :D I just had to ask, you wouldn't regrett it!

You know, I do love her...very much...but, I'm at a point in my life where I'm not sure what a marriage is supposed to be. I am very confused on the for better or for worse part...but, I guess I have been in the worse part for her at one time or another. I guess it all turns out fair!
The kiss was unbelievable...but, the goodbye kiss is the one that hurt...

PLEASE don't tempt me...you don't know what I'm feeling right now.
Or maybe YOU do...:kk And believe me, you wouldn't regret it either!;)

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

hahahahahaahahaha...... we sure are strange creatures sometimes aren't we? I know this is a serious issue, but I couldn't help but laugh. I 'spose because I've been in a similar situation and did the same damn thing. You wanna do it in the worst way, but it just doesn't feel right. I love to flirt and tease, but on a few occasions I've had the girl say, 'okay.... you want some of this... let's go... right now.' That was in a work situation and I've always stayed away from those. Seen too many of those relationships get ugly.

I think you made the right decision, if only because you didn't feel right about it.

ZP...you are a man's kinda man! You know, cause you've been there. Not very many can say that...I appreciate your experience and insight!
I'm still doubting my decision, but I'll keep it good for now.

[Eomer]

As for me being confused, really I was trying to be a little light hearted.


I think you did the right thing wiggles, and I know how hard it is.

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

Hey Wiggs, thanks for sharing that with us. I was wondering when this would all come to a head. When I read the part about you going home with her I said "Well he's going to do it!". I couldn't believe it when I read that you walked away. I'm envious that you were in that situation and not me. It must make you feel good to know that you are still turning the girls on, and that you made the right decision also.
BigO

Big O,
Your welcome. All of the thoughts and advice here at this site helped me think this through, but I have to say that my coscience made me say no. I'm still in doubt on this and if she comes back at me, I might be done!
Well...as far as turning women on..it's few and far between, but if I could show you a picture of this girl/woman, I think all of the men here would really deep down inside say that I am a DUMB ASS FOOL! I still can't believe it, and I am VERY flattered (and I told her that) that she wanted me..

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

Proud of you :kk

Thank You, Penny!:kk

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

that took a lot of will power on your part. Very proud of you :kk

WB,
I don't know what to call it? Will power, conscience over rule...or just plain ignorance, but I appreciate your being proud of me.
Thank You!:kk

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

As for me being confused, really I was trying to be a little light hearted.


I think you did the right thing wiggles, and I know how hard it is.

That's cool man...I appreciate it!

[Zpanther]

Wiggles. I remember you saying you did have a discussion with your wife a week or so ago. I hope you were able to get some ideas about what the real problem is...... even better, some mutual agreement about what each of you can do to eventually work to resolve it.

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

ZP...it's basically a stalemate.

She told me that I'm going to have to wait until SHE"S ready...and to take care of it myself. I asked if that meant that I should have an affair. She got a little upset and told me "you better not go out and fuck some other woman"!
I didn't ask her about oral sex at that point...I had to leave me an out!:D

Of course, you've seen what I do when I have a chance!:(



...mumble, mumble, mumble....DUMB ASS! mumble, mumble.....gave up a good chance...mumble, mumble...DUMB ASS!mumble, mumble, mumble.....

[Eomer]

Sounds like she thinks that you feel sex is more important then the relationship. Also sounds like she thinks her feelings and needs are more important then the relationship, and she does not understand that for you right now sex is a big part of what you missing.

Sorry wiggle's, she does not sound like she is being fair.

[Eomer]

Marrige is a two way street, in good times and bad.

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

well said Z, If you are gonna say yes, absolutely NOT with a co-worker! And yeah, sometimes flirting comes right back at cha, when you least expect someone to take you up on it!!;)

Sometimes that's good thing!:D :kk

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

Sounds like she thinks that you feel sex is more important then the relationship. Also sounds like she thinks her feelings and needs are more important then the relationship, and she does not understand that for you right now sex is a big part of what you missing.

Sorry wiggle's, she does not sound like she is being fair.

I hear ya, man! But, fair just doesn't come easy I guess!

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

Marrige is a two way street, in good times and bad.

Yeah! But, I'm getting tired of this street...I might need to find a newly paved, pothole free, flat, smooth and freshly striped one!


"Life is a highway...I wanna drive it all night long!"

[Eomer]

Life is not fair, thats why home life should be, for both people.

[sodeo]

I hate to say this but I went looking for a woman that liked me and wanted to do the things I needed. Found one a while ago and it was great. She had to leave and now I keep looking.

[Zpanther]

Yeah! But, I'm getting tired of this street...I might need to find a newly paved, pothole free, flat, smooth and freshly striped one!


"Life is a highway...I wanna drive it all night long!"

heh heh...... hmmmmm sounds like the old road (the one that's rough with potholes and a faded stripe has at least a temporary roadblock. Uh...... if I remember right one sexy brunette pointed out a temporary detour promising it would give you a nice ride, even though not necessarily flat, newly paved or freshly striped. Your vehicle seems to be stalled at the roadblock, unable to get on down the road using either route..... ;)

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

heh heh...... hmmmmm sounds like the old road (the one that's rough with potholes and a faded stripe has at least a temporary roadblock. Uh...... if I remember right one sexy brunette pointed out a temporary detour promising it would give you a nice ride, even though not necessarily flat, newly paved or freshly striped. Your vehicle seems to be stalled at the roadblock, unable to get on down the road using either route..... ;)

Yeah! You're right again ZP!
Stalled is the exact term to use here.
As far as the detour is concerned, I was afraid that road would have taken me waaaaay too far from where I wanted to go.

Maybe, I've found a better, smoother less dangerous route? ;) I am not sure but, I do know I like the scenery a WHOLE helluva lot more!:D If I take my time on this road I'm sure it will prove to be the better choice!

[Onehttmama]

Yeah! You're right again ZP!
Stalled is the exact term to use here.
As far as the detour is concerned, I was afraid that road would have taken me waaaaay too far from where I wanted to go.

Maybe, I've found a better, smoother less dangerous route? ;) I am not sure but, I do know I like the scenery a WHOLE helluva lot more!:D If I take my time on this road I'm sure it will prove to be the better choice!


WOW! You 2 are great with your comparitive writing skills! So as I see it Wiggles , you are now headed down a 3rd road? What been happening at the gym with HOTTIE? Have you seen her? You said you did one day , HAS she been back? Well I think I am gonna have a lot of catching up to do with you 2 when I get back from FL!!:D Wiggles, enjoy the scenery! as I said in a previous Post, I 'll miss you! YOU TOO Z! take care:knuddel:

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

WOW! You 2 are great with your comparitive writing skills! So as I see it Wiggles , you are now headed down a 3rd road? What been happening at the gym with HOTTIE? Have you seen her? You said you did one day , HAS she been back? Well I think I am gonna have a lot of catching up to do with you 2 when I get back from FL!!:D Wiggles, enjoy the scenery! as I said in a previous Post, I 'll miss you! YOU TOO Z! take care:knuddel:


A third road...yep, and it has proven so far, to be a good one. I hope it is a long smooth one that leads me to where I need to be!
The HOTTIE at the gym? She is still there about everyday...we talk casually...she is still teasing the hell out of me. I litterally have to move to another exercise or area to get away from her. It's killing my routine. She hasn't metioned another get together but, she is still hanging around. If she wasn't so easy on the eyes I'd be a little more upset about it.

Have fun in FL and stay safe! I'll miss you too!:knuddel:

[Zpanther]

WOW! You 2 are great with your comparitive writing skills! So as I see it Wiggles , you are now headed down a 3rd road? What been happening at the gym with HOTTIE? Have you seen her? You said you did one day , HAS she been back? Well I think I am gonna have a lot of catching up to do with you 2 when I get back from FL!!:D Wiggles, enjoy the scenery! as I said in a previous Post, I 'll miss you! YOU TOO Z! take care:knuddel:

Yea, have a good time mama...... and we'll expect some stimulating stories about your trip when you get back. I'm sure you can find SOMETHING a little crazy to do and report back on....;)

[Zpanther]

Tell us what you would do if you had a sexy woman show up at your door wearing nothing but a smile :)

Maybe I'm a little more cynical than most, but I usually figure anything that looks too good to be true..... probably is. I know of a situation that occurred several years ago. Man hears a knock at his hotel room door. He answers it and sees an attractive strange woman standing there. She smiles and walks into the room and quickly drops her coat..... nothing on underneath..... then she was followed through the door by a guy with a camera....... flash...... flash..... big trouble. That man musta really pissed someone off!

[Onehttmama]

Yea, have a good time mama...... and we'll expect some stimulating stories about your trip when you get back. I'm sure you can find SOMETHING a little crazy to do and report back on....;)


Well Z, with my knee still not fully healed, I dont know how exciting it can get!
Last time we were in Pompano, we went on a Bahama Mama Cruise , snorkleing over the reef with the sharks and then Bahama rum punch, dinner, limbo around the boat and cruising , singing as we toured the canals of famous people homes.
About 25 people on the boat. The Captain was totally NUTS and soo much fun! My kids had ablast and I was feeling no pain. Luckily they had a bus pick everybody up from their condos so noone would have to be designated drivers!!

[Penny]

I hope you like it hot I went to Miami a cpl years ago in August and it was unreal

[Wet Beaver]

I hope you like it hot I went to Miami a cpl years ago in August and it was unreal


Miami is humid, California is hot, AZ is even hotter............. Hot enought to dry out a wet beaver...:p

[Onehttmama]

I hope you like it hot I went to Miami a cpl years ago in August and it was unreal




OH yeah ! I like it HOT! The trick is to stay out of the city and relax on the beaches, especially in the Keys! There is always a breeze down there.



I tend to not go to FL in August because of Hurricane season. I have been through 2 and that is plenty enough!!



I'll let you know how HOTT it is /was when I get back!

[Penny]

Have a great time :)

[Leefromnj]

no one is there?!?

[Norfolkdave]

Its early days give it chance some people just cant wait can they!

[Penny]

Just starting out no real traffic there yet. Soon though :)



no one is there?!?

[Flirting Mom]

Your wife don't know what she has wiggletoes :)

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

Your wife don't know what she has wiggletoes :)

Thank You! Flirting Mom...but, as in any relationship it's not just one that is the problem. I'm sure there are times, things and words that she remembers of me that are not all that good.

I just wish she would learn to love me like she used to!

[Cindy]

You just look familar I doubt I ever met you because I would remember :)



I have to tell you Cindy, if I knew you I would not forget you...but, I suffer from CRS lately so, I don't know!
I think your pulling my leg!:D

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

Cindy,

Likewise beautiful!
I'd never forget meeting a beautiful woman like you!:D

[biganbad]

any ladies from mississippi or tennessee

[ross57412]

I like messing with the neighbors :)

lol penny i like to mess with mine to tobad they dont speak english and i dont speak farsi sooo

[I´m old now]

if is my sister in law I will take her to hevan for shure .....

[swabie16]

it don't have to be in the afternoon as long as i get it

[Onehttmama]

HEY Wiggles! HI All!

Florida was great! and yes Penny IT WAS HOT!

So wiggles, catch me up? The Gym hottie still teasing you? The 3rd road still going well? I am sooo curious??? I feel like I have been gone a month and I am only home till Friday, then back Sunday night and gone again Tues morning till late the next Sunday for the WBC convention in Lancaster PA.
I have soo much to do, but I 'll be back here tonight!;) :hug: :knuddel: to all

[Onehttmama]

Your wife don't know what she has wiggletoes :)


YOU SAID THAT RIGHT MOM!

Wiggles you sound like such a sweet caring guy, :knuddel: I hope she hasnt done like (and I cant remember who said it, I have been trying to catch up) his wife and gone and had a relationship with another women and is deciding whether or not to stay or leave and stringing you along for all this time in limbo until SHE DECIDES SHE WANTS SEX! Is there just NO talking with her??

I think we would help ya out if we lived closer!;) :blowjob:

Z or Dave also mentioned a get together with every one from the site, That would be a sight/ reunion and an OH so interesting one at that!!!:D :hp: :rofl1:

[Onehttmama]

UMMMMM! by the pool in the hott sun! In the pool. I can be VERY creative with and afternoon delight rendevous:D

Sunday afternoons used to be one of our most favorite love making times when the kids were young and asleep for a nap!! :hp: It was one of those that our 3rd one was concieved SURPRISE SURPRISE!!!

[KIRA187]

where are most of the members from?

[Penny]

We used to do it on the living room floor all the time but now we are lucky to find peace and quiet in the bedroom Lots of activity here all the time :(

[roughneck]

i will take any time i can get it my wife will say the same thing. I don't have to worry about neighbors watching i live off the highway so no one can see.:D

[hank69]

anywhere, anytime is good by me:D

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

HEY Wiggles! HI All!

Florida was great! and yes Penny IT WAS HOT!

So wiggles, catch me up? The Gym hottie still teasing you? The 3rd road still going well? I am sooo curious??? I feel like I have been gone a month and I am only home till Friday, then back Sunday night and gone again Tues morning till late the next Sunday for the WBC convention in Lancaster PA.
I have soo much to do, but I 'll be back here tonight!;) :hug: :knuddel: to all

She's still there...being naughty...and I gotta say she still looks GOOD!

Third road is going well! Wish I could reach the destination though...oh well, ya know what they say. "It was a long trip, but when I finally got there it was well worth every mile"!:D ;)

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

YOU SAID THAT RIGHT MOM!

Wiggles you sound like such a sweet caring guy, :knuddel: I hope she hasnt done like (and I cant remember who said it, I have been trying to catch up) his wife and gone and had a relationship with another women and is deciding whether or not to stay or leave and stringing you along for all this time in limbo until SHE DECIDES SHE WANTS SEX! Is there just NO talking with her??

I think we would help ya out if we lived closer!;) :blowjob:

Z or Dave also mentioned a get together with every one from the site, That would be a sight/ reunion and an OH so interesting one at that!!!:D :hp: :rofl1:

Whoa! What an offer...I'm sure that I would be more than happy to return the favor:la: :D

[Norfolkdave]

Im on my way over penny, treading water as we speak!!!!!!!

[lovezone]

hi
i,m carol married not happy lookin for true guy

[Penny]

Hello Carol I hope you like it here Lots of men here that love to talk to women :)

[KIRA187]

hi
i,m carol married not happy lookin for true guy

hey carol, Married too. whats up?

[KIRA187]

are many of the members couples of some sort?

[Penny]

There are quite a few

[Onehttmama]

Wiggles, you called yourself a Confused Dumb Ass on this thread when you were at hotties place and walked away! I NOW REALLY KNOW EXACTLY how you felt!!! While out of town I stayed with a very dear friend from my high school days, we have kept and lost contact over the years.

We had a really nice time together, but talked later and we both NEEDED more! He needed a little TLC and I just wanted to make his hurt go away, to hold him close, but somehow neither one could read the other. He put up such a strong facade that I wasnt sure what to do. Now SOO far away we both regret not having shared a few hours of passion as we did years ago.

[Zpanther]

......as Lady P says, gotta attract a few bees here before the bloom goes off the rose, although she doesn't have anything to worry about on that count for awhile yet. Rose smells better than ever...... and tastes pretty good too :lf

[mark2gmtrans]

Mr. Wiggles,
I hope you will be able to get some traveling done on one of your roads soon because parked vehicles tend to rust, and I know that if my car wasn't getting me where I wanted to go I would trade it in for a newer better, and more fun model.
Seriously your wife does not even have the right to tell you to wait until she is ready, she is being cruel to you to even tell you something like that. How long should a man wait? She would be on here crying, and surely looking for some guy to fill in the gaps in the relationship.
I hate it when women think that they have the right to say no in the marriage, that is just wrong. Ladies if you want the guy to be in an exclusive monogamous relationship with you then you should be ready willing and able to take care of all of his sexual needs all the time. Men it goes triple for us, we have to be sensitive and kind and loving to our women or they will be with someone else.
When we get married we make a binding legal contract with our spouse, we agree to be sexually faithful to them, and to love them, and care for them. In any contract, if one party fails to uphold the contract in good faith, then the contract is in breach. In any other contract a serious breach such as the withholding of services by one of the parties of the contract would be actionable and would also allow the offended party to exit the contract without negative consequences. In marriage the contract is not damaged by the witholding of service, why is that?
I myself would if my wife told me that sex was not available until further notice, first laugh at her ( she could not cut me off if she did not know where I was getting it). and second divorce her on grounds of extreme mental cruelty.
I know that sometimes a couple can agree to abstain from having sex for some reason for a period of time and that is ok but the minute one of them says "hey I want some" ,abstinance has to end.
I know that sometimes we tend to fear change but if you are already thinking that the only way to get some is to cheat on her why would you stay in the relationship?
I was in the same situation only different , my wife was drinking and doing drugs, the result was the same, she was not living up to her end of the marriage contract.
I did not want to get divorced, but after years of her saying she would change and then she never changed for the better( it was always for the worse) I got divorced. I was sad, for a while, but now I am happier than I can remember being for years, no more feeling like a fool, no more wandering what I could do to make it better, no more blaming myself for her fuckups, and now I see in hindsight that she would not have changed if Jesus Christ had come down and pimp slapped her ass into next month.
So kick her to the curb and then you can do all the hotties you want and not have callouses

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

Ya know Mark, what you are saying is very true!

The thing is the only part of my marriage that I'm unhappy with is the sex part...or lack of!
She is a good mother to our daughters...a hard working woman...easy on the eyes...fun and a good person. Oh! She can be a real pain in the ass at times, but so can I!
We'll work through this...if not, I'm gonna have to do something that I really don't think I should but, I've talked with her and she's gonna have to understand or kick me to the curb!

She can only expect me to wait so long...and to perfectly honest with you...the right woman and time...I'm gonna jump!:D

[MCat]

Mark, here is my response regarding your comments to Mr Wiggles....I don't agree with your views and am just voicing my opinion...Penny, feel free to delete me or whatever if I have overstepped the boundries.

Mr. Wiggles,
I hope you will be able to get some traveling done on one of your roads soon because parked vehicles tend to rust, and I know that if my car wasn't getting me where I wanted to go I would trade it in for a newer better, and more fun model.
Seriously your wife does not even have the right to tell you to wait until she is ready, she is being cruel to you to even tell you something like that.(I am not saying what she is doing is right, but there may be more going on than she can say...she may not understand it all. It could be medical, emotional etc. Men can not know what or how we feel. You are not women...there is so much you will never understand about us or our bodies. Hell we don't understand ourselves)

How long should a man wait?(If you still love each other you will wait till the sun don't shine) She would be on here crying, and surely looking for some guy to fill in the gaps in the relationship.
I hate it when women think that they have the right to say no in the marriage, that is just wrong.( We always have the right to say no, marriage or not) Ladies if you want the guy to be in an exclusive monogamous relationship with you then you should be ready willing and able to take care of all of his sexual needs all the time.( You have very high expectations Mark. All the time is unrealistic...do you allow for the occasional real headache,period pain,just don't feel like it,I feel fat or the I'm afraid I might have cancer and can't tell you moment?)

Men it goes triple for us, we have to be sensitive and kind and loving to our women or they will be with someone else.(I don't think most of us would do that if we love our men. We, my husband and I, have gone through quite a few dry spells in our marriage (we are going through a whopper of a difficult time right now) and never once did I think about leaving or wanting to be with someone else) When we get married we make a binding legal contract with our spouse, we agree to be sexually faithful to them(faithful means not cheating...having no other partner, it doesn't mean never saying no to sex), and to love them, and care for them. In any contract, if one party fails to uphold the contract in good faith, then the contract is in breach. In any other contract a serious breach such as the withholding of services by one of the parties of the contract would be actionable and would also allow the offended party to exit the contract without negative consequences. In marriage the contract is not damaged by the witholding of service, why is that?( Gone are the days when sex in marriage is considered service...well unless you are morman and have 16 wives. It should be an act between 2 consenting adults, and if you're married love would be nice)
I myself would if my wife told me that sex was not available until further notice, first laugh at her ( she could not cut me off if she did not know where I was getting it). and second divorce her on grounds of extreme mental cruelty.
I know that sometimes a couple can agree to abstain from having sex for some reason for a period of time and that is ok but the minute one of them says "hey I want some" ,abstinance has to end.( I think that is wrong also....You should both want it together...not force yourself just to service the other)
I know that sometimes we tend to fear change but if you are already thinking that the only way to get some is to cheat on her why would you stay in the relationship?
I was in the same situation only different , my wife was drinking and doing drugs, the result was the same, she was not living up to her end of the marriage contract.
I did not want to get divorced, but after years of her saying she would change and then she never changed for the better( it was always for the worse) I got divorced. ( I can't imagine that she really loved you, not enough to clean herself up, so yes she did not live up to her end of the marriage, in my mind she committed emotional abandonment, emotional abuse against you. The only reason I can think of to get a divorce would be if my spouse committed adultery or if he was abusive to me or my children. In fact if he hurt my kids I would probably have killed him.)I was sad, for a while, but now I am happier than I can remember being for years, no more feeling like a fool, no more wandering what I could do to make it better, no more blaming myself for her fuckups, and now I see in hindsight that she would not have changed if Jesus Christ had come down and pimp slapped her ass into next month.
So kick her to the curb and then you can do all the hotties you want and not have callouses Sex is a very lovely part of marriage...but you can survive without it, marriage is more than sex. Mr Wiggles, If you still love her with all your heart, please please make sure you have exhausted all other options before you divorce.

Just my thoughts on this subject so close to my heart....

[Wet Beaver]

now you why, he is the only one on my ingore list...

[Annie]

Oh dear Mark. I guess that means when my husband was without a job for a year I should have kicked him to the curb because he couldn't support me financially...I was supporting both of us and he was so down on himself at the time he could no longer connect with me, so emotional support was lacking too...I was the one who had to be strong and supportive for both of us...yet he was the one who broke our "contract"...so I guess I shoulda left him then...can't do it now...he's back on his feet and I'm getting laid 3 or 4 times a week...sheesh... I blew my chance

[KIRA187]

mark seems to have been through a situation that has made him feel the way he does. His remarks make it seem as though he is still harboring some anger, frustration, and hurt. Sometimes it takes a long period of time for true healing.

[Wet Beaver]

mark seems to have been through a situation that has made him feel the way he does. His remarks make it seem as though he is still harboring some anger, frustration, and hurt. Sometimes it takes a long period of time for true healing.



to qutoe a well know author... "that is a load of Bull Shi*"

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

Sex is a very lovely part of marriage...but you can survive without it, marriage is more than sex. Mr Wiggles, If you still love her with all your heart, please please make sure you have exhausted all other options before you divorce.

Just my thoughts on this subject so close to my heart....[/QUOTE]

Marycat,
I've been dealing with this for a long time now and divorce really isn't something I want or am considering. Believe me, it would've happened if I was considering it.
As I've said many times here, I love my wife...we'll work through this.
She has some personal issues she needs to address and I'm working on what she has discussed with me on my end.

I come to this site to have fun, discuss issues and blow off steam. As you've probably noticed I'm a talker, harmless, just talking kinda guy. I had my chance to cheat and what happened? I'm more bark than bite (although a simple taste woulda been nice!:lf ;) ) and I realize that marriage is more than sex or any ONE thing....I'm certainly not going to give up the 25yrs I've shared with my wife for a selfish "one problem" issue.

I started this thread to get opinions, and because I felt that this was an interesting situation that I basically put myself in by looking to cheat.
What's really interesting/ironic is that when I had it put in my face, that all of the memories of those 25yrs...and my heart kept me from doing what it was that I thought I so desperately "needed" to do. Yeah, yeah, I blamed the age of "miss hottie" and made ya think that I had a "manly" reason to walk away, but in all honesty it was the love for my wife that made me stop....so, I'm not the "manly man" I've tried to protray in this situation. Ya see, I'm harmless!

So...if anyone out there thought that I was selfish, uncaring, gotta get sex no matter who I hurt kinda guy....I'M NOT! Take everything I say with a grain of salt when it comes to this subject....I'm just venting and working out stress.

I appreciate EVERYONE'S views on this...please don't get angry with each other...lifes' too short to live it angry!:) :wa:

[Zpanther]

As you've probably noticed I'm a talker, harmless, just talking kinda guy.

..... a talker? Really? an Italian who likes to talk? Now that's an amazing discovery..... hahahahahahahahha.. My best friend and hunting buddy for years was a Sicilian, so I'm used to it.

[Penny]

My husband is Sicilian and I cant get him to talk :( Every couple is different if it was all black and white all the problems in everyones marrage would be worked out already. I'm sure there are people out there getting laid that would want different things from their spouse. Just human nature to always want more and more. Wiggles will work this out with his wife and this will just be a chuckle in what is a long lasting loving relationship I'm sure :)

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

..... a talker? Really? an Italian who likes to talk? Now that's an amazing discovery..... hahahahahahahahha.. My best friend and hunting buddy for years was a Sicilian, so I'm used to it.

Good to hear that someone out there understands, ZP!:D
Or should I say "Ci sa gli italiani" (knows us Italians)

My family is from Potenza Italy...it's in the southern part of the country.
Right about where the arch would be in the boot!

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

My husband is Sicilian and I cant get him to talk :( Every couple is different if it was all black and white all the problems in everyones marrage would be worked out already. I'm sure there are people out there getting laid that would want different things from their spouse. Just human nature to always want more and more. Wiggles will work this out with his wife and this will just be a chuckle in what is a long lasting loving relationship I'm sure :)


Thanks Penny, I believe you're right on this situation, and also what you've said about others wanting something else...human nature!
It's too bad that those two words put together can be something so negative at times...alone they are great words...together they can sometimes be evil!:(

I knew that you were a special woman...you married into the "family".;)
"Soltanto il migliore per gli uomini italiani!":D

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

now you why, he is the only one on my ingore list...

Is this for me WB? Are you gonna put me on your ignore list?:(

I always had fun flirting with you...I'm not a bad person...just confused and trying to work this out.

[Cindy]

Only the better one for the Italian men ;)

Soltanto il migliore per gli uomini italiani

[Cindy]

I had to look it up lol
My husband is Irish and I still don't know what he is saying half the time :D

[MCat]

Is this for me WB? Are you gonna put me on your ignore list?:(

I always had fun flirting with you...I'm not a bad person...just confused and trying to work this out.

If you don't mind I'll answer for WB, it wasn't for you, it was for Mark.

We can tell by your posts that you love your wife and you are not using this temporary cold spell of hers as an excuse to have a fling. You are trying to work it out.

I blew off some steam last night after reading his advice to you and it looks like I am not the only female who doesn't appreciate his views on women submitting because it is "in the marriage contract". He just sounds so selfish...So It was not intended as an attack against you or how you are handling your situation.

If I handled my marriage following Marks rules I would have kicked my husband out in 1980, He would have divorced me in 1985, and we would have gotten rid of each other again last summer. And hell, he should kick me out right now. Sure he wants sex this week...I don't feel like it. That should be a good enough reason. I might feel like it this weekend. Guess I will put Mark on my ignore list too, then I won't be tempted to read his post's.

I better go take a pill and down a bahama mama cooler...a good drunk is what I need tonight.

[MCat]

to qutoe a well know author... "that is a load of Bull Shi*"

WB I think I love you :thankyou:

[Penny]

Lei è un uomo buono:kk I think that is right:gs


I knew that you were a special woman...you married into the "family".;)
"Soltanto il migliore per gli uomini italiani!":D

[Wet Beaver]

Is this for me WB? Are you gonna put me on your ignore list?:(

I always had fun flirting with you...I'm not a bad person...just confused and trying to work this out.

you are silly.. I was talking to Marycat about mark2gmtran..he is the only one on my list. You are lucky, I like you.

[Wet Beaver]

If you don't mind I'll answer for WB, it wasn't for you, it was for Mark.

We can tell by your posts that you love your wife and you are not using this temporary cold spell of hers as an excuse to have a fling. You are trying to work it out.

I blew off some steam last night after reading his advice to you and it looks like I am not the only female who doesn't appreciate his views on women submitting because it is "in the marriage contract". He just sounds so selfish...So It was not intended as an attack against you or how you are handling your situation.

If I handled my marriage following Marks rules I would have kicked my husband out in 1980, He would have divorced me in 1985, and we would have gotten rid of each other again last summer. And hell, he should kick me out right now. Sure he wants sex this week...I don't feel like it. That should be a good enough reason. I might feel like it this weekend. Guess I will put Mark on my ignore list too, then I won't be tempted to read his post's.

I better go take a pill and down a bahama mama cooler...a good drunk is what I need tonight. Well said Mary

[ross57412]

:wa: :3welcome hi carol how are you :lf and cuda i was single when i first joined this site people like penny flirting mom and cindy showed me how to comeouta my shell now im engaged to a wonerful lady from the state of georgia whom ive met over here

[NeedinAndSeekin]

I have no clue where to begin. I have looked at several sites and so far this seems to be the friendlyist by far. When I finally figure out what I'm doing and where I want to go I'll let ya'll know.

[Seeker]

hi
i,m carol married not happy lookin for true guy Hi Carol! Hope you come back often! Who knows, ..... "it could happen" .... Rodger, angels in the outfield.

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

you are silly.. I was talking to Marycat about mark2gmtran..he is the only one on my list. You are lucky, I like you.

Ok, I read that one wrong....I'm glad that you like me WB. You're a fun woman to talk and flirt with.:D

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

If you don't mind I'll answer for WB, it wasn't for you, it was for Mark.

We can tell by your posts that you love your wife and you are not using this temporary cold spell of hers as an excuse to have a fling. You are trying to work it out.

I blew off some steam last night after reading his advice to you and it looks like I am not the only female who doesn't appreciate his views on women submitting because it is "in the marriage contract". He just sounds so selfish...So It was not intended as an attack against you or how you are handling your situation.

If I handled my marriage following Marks rules I would have kicked my husband out in 1980, He would have divorced me in 1985, and we would have gotten rid of each other again last summer. And hell, he should kick me out right now. Sure he wants sex this week...I don't feel like it. That should be a good enough reason. I might feel like it this weekend. Guess I will put Mark on my ignore list too, then I won't be tempted to read his post's.

I better go take a pill and down a bahama mama cooler...a good drunk is what I need tonight.

Thanks marycat...I later realized that I read that wrong. Thank you!:kk

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

Lei è un uomo buono:kk I think that is right:gs

I'm sure that he is, Penny! :D

(That would be Egli(he) instead of Lei(she)

[Zpanther]

Ok, I read that one wrong....I'm glad that you like me WB. You're a fun woman to talk and flirt with.:D

Careful Wiggles..... This one bites! You could be in trouble if she says she likes ya. Remember. She likes to put saddles and cinches (that aren't connected to the saddle) on guys she likes.... and she has a whip too! :eek:

[Wet Beaver]

Careful Wiggles..... This one bites! You could be in trouble if she says she likes ya. Remember. She likes to put saddles and cinches (that aren't connected to the saddle) on guys she likes.... and she has a whip too! :eek:

you forgot the rideing crop, that has your name on it.ZP

[Zpanther]

Damn! I was hoping you wouldn't remember that.

[Penny]

I thought I said you were a good man lol



I'm sure that he is, Penny! :D

(That would be Egli(he) instead of Lei(she)

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

Careful Wiggles..... This one bites! You could be in trouble if she says she likes ya. Remember. She likes to put saddles and cinches (that aren't connected to the saddle) on guys she likes.... and she has a whip too! :eek:

ZP....The whip and cinches might be a little much, but I gotta tel ya...being ridin by a Wet Beaver sure would be nice!:lf :D

[Wet Beaver]

Damn! I was hoping you wouldn't remember that.


i was thinking of getting spurs and a branding iron for ya.........lol

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

I thought I said you were a good man lol

Well, Thank you Penny.:kk ..but it translated as "she is a good man"..so I assumed you were talking about Heaterman.

[Wet Beaver]

ZP....The whip and cinches might be a little much, but I gotta tel ya...being ridin by a Wet Beaver sure would be nice!:lf :D



now if you are a nice boy.. you might get a chance..........

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

now if you are a nice boy.. you might get a chance..........

Whoa there WB! Don't tease a man that has been without for so long;)

I'd be nice for you any day!:D

[Zpanther]

i was thinking of getting spurs and a branding iron for ya.........lol

Well thank you..... Just make sure the spurs fit my boots and the design on the branding iron is of a panther.... We can do that... :D

[Wet Beaver]

Well thank you..... Just make sure the spurs fit my boots and the design on the branding iron is of a panther.... We can do that... :D

your boots?? they are for my boots!! and the branding iron will say...property of Lady P....:na

[Wet Beaver]

Whoa there WB! Don't tease a man that has been without for so long;)

I'd be nice for you any day!:D

sorry, i didn't mean to tease ya... Bad beaver Bad.....:sp:

[Zpanther]

sorry, i didn't mean to tease ya... Bad beaver Bad.....:sp:

Beaver is bad........ very bad! Not into 'nice.' heh heh Here Beav, give me that paddle. You can't do it right by yourself.

[illmakeurtoeswiggle]

sorry, i didn't mean to tease ya... Bad beaver Bad.....:sp:

You crack me up WB!:D :kk

[Wet Beaver]

Beaver is bad........ very bad! Not into 'nice.' heh heh Here Beav, give me that paddle. You can't do it right by yourself.


that is why i am going out tonight....

[Wet Beaver]

You crack me up WB!:D :kk

always try to please:gs

[Zpanther]

your boots?? they are for my boots!! and the branding iron will say...property of Lady P....:na

hmmmmmmm. Well, when the Trapper catches up with the Beaver, we'll see who wears the spurs, won't we hon?

[Wet Beaver]

hmmmmmmm. Well, when the Trapper catches up with the Beaver, we'll see who wears the spurs, won't we hon?

and you will find out, it will be me......

[MCat]

Thanks marycat...I later realized that I read that wrong. Thank you!:kk

:kk back atcha ;)

[CSpringsFlyer]

So how many people have actually gone to the the next level and actually had affairs and/or rendezvous outside of their marriages?

[bobby6901]

Not me... unless you count cyber girlfriends.... do they count? I've been chatign to a beautiful woman from the midwest for about 4 years now... never met her in person....

[KIRA187]

have primarily flirted and had some cyber sex but have not taken it to the next level and actually met face to face. have had a few propositions to meet females though.

[MCat]

I have not...just talked nasty with a couple guys online. I am pretty sure Hank has not but we will have to wait and see what his answer is...

[Annie]

I've done some pretty heavy flirting but nothing my husband doesn't know about. I've never met anyone in person or cheated.

[CSpringsFlyer]

I admit, I have been with a couple of other women for what was effectively a one-night stand, but nothing I would characterize as an affair

[Norfolkdave]

So how many people have actually gone to the the next level and actually had affairs and/or rendezvous outside of their marriages?





Yep I was flirting early part of the year with a lass from down south, ringing her too, and eventually we met, but nothing happened!:lmao

[banksmic]

Hi everyone , how is things?

[Norfolkdave]

where are most of the members from?

Im across the pond in the UK:wa:

[Big O]

South Florida. some of us call it Paradise, some of us call it hell, but a shitload of us call it home!!!!!!
Big O

[Annie]

South Florida. some of us call it Paradise, some of us call it hell, but a shitload of us call it home!!!!!!
Big O

No hun, Paradise is a bit to the northwest, turn left when you get to Ohio...

[Big O]

How far do I go after I make that left??????

[Onehttmama]

South Florida. some of us call it Paradise, some of us call it hell, but a shitload of us call it home!!!!!!
Big O

It is Paradise til Hurricane season! I am not sure if I could live there year round, but the beaches are beautiful! I love the sand and the surf!:D

[MCat]

I think Paradise is in the Upper Pennisula of Michigan...Hank69 & I are from Michigan.

[Penny]

Welcome banksmic :kk



Hi everyone , how is things?

[hardtongue]

I have had a few flings.....travel a large part of career, so opportunity did arise

[geshem]

As much as I love my wife, yes I have in fact had sex with other women.

[Penny]

What made you do it? :(

[Onehttmama]

NO, again, unless you count cybersex, which was only once and NOT with a webcam. A few exchanged backrubs with a 21 year old,and a few passionate kisses. Nothing more.

[geshem]

A feeling of lonelyness, she was out of town, and we had been having some really nasty ass fights.

I had gone to a movie in the City (San Francisco). I didn't want to go home right away, so I had dinner, and met a woman who was having dinner alone also.

I don't think either one of us was looking for a sex partner, but is how it ended. I took her home and we listened to jazz and sipped wine. We were both horny. She gave great head.

[Polo38]

Fill out a profile here http://www.marriedandflirtingpersonals.com/ Its free to do and who knows maybe that person your looking for will find you there :)


Penny, is this site working?

[avitron69]

I have. I like something different every now and again. It has nothing to with love, just adventure.

[Annie]

I have. I like something different every now and again. It has nothing to with love, just adventure.

Would you feel that way about it if it was your wife who was "looking for adventure"?

[Penny]

not at the moment there is a problem with the script I have been trying to get it fixxed for a week or more. I will let you know when its ready Sorry:(

[Polo38]

that's cool thanks

[nomad4]

Sorry.

Must disagree.

Paradise is the East Coast of Australia.
I am from Lake Macquarie. NOT Port Macquarie.


marycat said.
"I think Paradise is in the Upper Pennisula of Michigan...Hank69 & I are from Michigan."

[Wet Beaver]

http://www.spacespider.net/emo/signs046.gif nomad

[Annie]

I think Paradise is in the Upper Pennisula of Michigan...Hank69 & I are from Michigan.

I know of a little island off the U.P. and I bet Wet Beaver has relatives there, the name of it is Beaver Island. Best little vacation spot in the mid-west and some folks do call it Paradise! As for me, I have my own little piece of Paradise right here where I am.

[Polo38]

Paradise is a small town in NH where i long to return one day...until then paradise is lost

[ks1979]

what i need is to do a little :la: and some of this :hp: would be nice too.. can any ladies help me? I'm in north dakota

[Norfolkdave]

hi
i,m carol married not happy lookin for true guy

Hi Carol uk male calling hope you like it here with all us folks randy guys too you know.;)

[geshem]

A woman will tell her husband or boyfriend, whomever, just tell me what you want, and then when he does, she looks at him a freak or pervert.


Open and honest communcation is important in any realationship, but how open and how honest?

[nlightenedrogue]

I had a couple of one-night stand type flings, in retaliation. I've never had cyber sex or had any type of "affair" - meaning emotional or long-term relationship

[avitron69]

Would you feel that way about it if it was your wife who was "looking for adventure"?

I would not have a problem with it. I can seperate sex and love/ I don't think women can do that the way men do.

[Zpanther]

No hun, Paradise is a bit to the northwest, turn left when you get to Ohio...

This isn't 'paradise', but it IS the 'last best place.' ;)

[Big O]

You know, on Tuesday afternoons, after I've busted my ass delivering bread all morning, paradise for me is sitting at the bar at the quartedeck, ordering up a big greasy burger with swiss cheese and mushrooms and having a cold Bass Ale (tap only) sitting in front of me with the air conditioning blowing all over me... ahhh....
I think I'm getting aroused! lol

[geshem]

I think there is a difference between sex as a biological urge and sex for the sake of sex. We marry because we want to spend our lives with the one person that we truly, actually love.

Sex for the sake of sex is not the same thing. I have sex with my wife, but sometimes I want something different. I don't always act on the impluse, but it is there.

[Annie]

Sex for the sake of sex is not the same thing. I have sex with my wife, but sometimes I want something different. I don't always act on the impluse, but it is there.

Oh those impuses can be a mighty powerfull thing!

[Polo38]

Ok...let's put our cards on the table....Yes...several...some cyber...but they generally ended up in person...excuses would be pointless, explanation would self serving, apologies would be contrite, regrets would be a lie…bad boy lives on I guess.…but the stories would be titillating.

[geshem]

Very impluses indeed. I very seldom act on them. I have done cyber a few times, which is interesting.


Consenting sex with a person who wants pleasure as long as no one is hurt is fine. I've been married for Eleven Years, and lived with her nine years. Dated for one year. I think that sometimes a person will get bored with their partner. That does not mean I do not love my wife, I do.

But I still look, I'm only human.

[geshem]

Keep getting the "This page not available". Been a few days, with the same message.

[Big O]

I never cheated on my ex wife while we were together. When we were seperated I had a couple of one night stands.
I must admit that I am a man who loves women and I will never stop looking and fantasizing about all of them.

[MCat]

Keep getting the "This page not available". Been a few days, with the same message.

When I get that message I just clean up the excess crap on the PC and restart....usually does the trick.

[Penny]

Problem with the script I bought They cant get it working and I paid them for it too. They say no refund so I said I will charge it back on my credit card. They say they will put it in a collection agency. I am not happy with them right now :(



Keep getting the "This page not available". Been a few days, with the same message.

[islands19]

aloha i'm 36 married but want more adventure, would like to talk sometime with some ladies, I live in Hawaii and i'm nervious lol, first time doing this

[Penny]

Welcome islands19 :kk

[MCat]

I live in Hawaii and i'm nervious lol,

Aloha back atcha Island19... http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/5/5_1_101.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm117YYUS)I have only been to Hawaii once but absolutely loved it. I keep telling my hubby I have the Hawaiian disease...
lackanooki and I want to go back the the island comeonawannalaya.

Maybe you can help me out :kk Welcome to the group...everyone is very nice and we love to talk about :hp: You will have a good time.

[mikkij26]

Hi to everyone from Portland, OR
Now the Pacific Northwest is truly paradise. It is NOT true that it always rains in Portland. Y'all should come visit.

Any other web feet here?

[Annie]

aloha i'm 36 married but want more adventure, would like to talk sometime with some ladies, I live in Hawaii and i'm nervious lol, first time doing this

Awe, don't be nervous we don't bite...nibble maybe but it's all in good fun. ;)

[Zpanther]

We try to do that a couple of times a month. It's nice to have the house to ourselves on weekends.

[surfnchat]

Nothing like a good a good "nooner" to put a smile on my face. I used to go home for lunch and not eat any food. ;)

[Polo38]

If only i could convince my wife for a nooner

[rickt67]

Tell us what you would do if you had a sexy woman show up at your door wearing nothing but a smile :)


I would be flabbergasted and would be in heaven

[dbleze]

Maybe I'm a little more cynical than most, but I usually figure anything that looks too good to be true..... probably is. I know of a situation that occurred several years ago. Man hears a knock at his hotel room door. He answers it and sees an attractive strange woman standing there. She smiles and walks into the room and quickly drops her coat..... nothing on underneath..... then she was followed through the door by a guy with a camera....... flash...... flash..... big trouble. That man musta really pissed someone off!

I would also be leary that something happening to me that was not expected or thought through would cause me problems. So I agree with Zpanther.

[mysticexplorer]

:blowjob: :blowjob: :blowjob: From living and loving the swinging lifestyle for some time now, when awakening i and others reflect on my or partners erotic adventures of the evening before. This gets us horny all over just talking about the group or whatever sex was watched and participated in. In time its round 4,5 whatever, the excitement carrys on.Another great thing that adds to the sexual temp.is its daylight, a bonus for us voyeurs and exhibitionists. Guaranteed if you think or are reminded of your intimate encounters youve shared you wont make it till noon. :blowjob: :blowjob: :blowjob: :knuddel: :knuddel:

[lay_guy]

afternoon,morning,midnight,primetime ....anytime for delights

[lay_guy]

i am in sacramento california if anybody is close let me know

[bobby6901]

I have no neighbours, none that can see into my back yard anyhow, they are all at least a half mile away... so the back yard is fair game! Dip in the hot tub in January is my favourite! Freezes the hair and sets the body on fire ;)

[MCat]

I have no neighbours, none that can see into my back yard anyhow, they are all at least a half mile away... so the back yard is fair game! Dip in the hot tub in January is my favourite! Freezes the hair and sets the body on fire ;)

I would love that...maybe one of these days we will have a hot tub. January is about a 10 on the nipple scale here in Michigan.

[Penny]

We got a hot tub this spring and hardly use it. I would like to just get rid of it to tell you the truth. :( Never seem to have time to use it.

[Onehttmama]

We got a hot tub this spring and hardly use it. I would like to just get rid of it to tell you the truth. :( Never seem to have time to use it.



How can you NOT find time for it Penny? Its so relaxing. Ours is builtin to the deck.

We use it yearround and best when colder, like you said marycat. ice on the hair . I find it best not to wear anything when its colder because you can get out and you body radiates the heat even if it is 20 degrees. BUT if you are wearing a suit the suit immediately gets very cold and makes you cold!

[Seeker]

Dang, Penny! If I had one, I would certainly be using it. Esp. with such a hottie as yourself!:blowjob: We got a hot tub this spring and hardly use it. I would like to just get rid of it to tell you the truth. :( Never seem to have time to use it.

[Seeker]

I'M THERE!! Just tell me, when and where! I'll figure out a way to get there!!;) How can you NOT find time for it Penny? Its so relaxing. Ours is builtin to the deck.

We use it yearround and best when colder, like you said marycat. ice on the hair . I find it best not to wear anything when its colder because you can get out and you body radiates the heat even if it is 20 degrees. BUT if you are wearing a suit the suit immediately gets very cold and makes you cold!