Once A Cheater..Always A Cheater?

[pointofnoreturn]

Men and women cheat because there is a need to be wanted. If your spouse does not give you that....eventually you will stray...

[Willy S]

yes, wanting to feel desired is a huge part of it

[pointofnoreturn]

YOu can only go soo long with out someone wanting you...Then you look for others

[pointofnoreturn]

I am not talking days
, I am talking a significant amount of time.
For me years

[yaser]

YOu can only go soo long with out someone wanting you...Then you look for othersOne?or many others? :lf

[yaser]

I am not talking days
, I am talking a significant amount of time.
For me years
where were you for so may years?

[pointofnoreturn]

just watching

[Inspector72]

YOu can only go soo long with out someone wanting you...Then you look for others

How can you go for so long without love and sex...you are a very attractive and i am sure highly educated. But yeah that has to be bad when you go without someone really truly wanting you.

[pointofnoreturn]

How can you go for so long without love and sex...you are a very attractive and i am sure highly educated. But yeah that has to be bad when you go without someone really truly wanting you.Looks and or education have nothing to do with a couple who have been together for 23 plus years, and "The thrill is gone"

[dartgirl]

Not only is the thrill gone, but we've changed and not in the same direction. We want different things out of life.

[steamy]

This happens.....me and my wife are the same way. Kids move out and time marches on. People grow apart.............Happiness falls away.

Not only is the thrill gone, but we've changed and not in the same direction. We want different things out of life.

[pointofnoreturn]

Because Adam ate the apple....

[SirFox]

Not only is the thrill gone, but we've changed and not in the same direction. We want different things out of life.

That is one thing that MARRIAGE never took into account, that we change. MARRIAGE does not take into account that we get older either! :) I suggest we live in SIN...it's so nice and one can feel married if he/ she decides!

[dartgirl]

That is one thing that MARRIAGE never took into account, that we change. MARRIAGE does not take into account that we get older either! :) I suggest we live in SIN...it's so nice and one can feel married if he/ she decides!

I was reading an article the other day that said in France there were more people deciding not to get married.

It is scary to have your kids leave home and then look at the person you are married to and realize not only do you not have anything in common, you don't really like them that much either. It never was an issue when the kids were there all the time, never really had time for each other then.

[Willy S]

In the US too.

[yaser]

Because Adam ate the apple....Eve ate the banana..The result we love each to make sex..

[SirFox]

I was reading an article the other day that said in France there were more people deciding not to get married.

It is scary to have your kids leave home and then look at the person you are married to and realize not only do you not have anything in common, you don't really like them that much either. It never was an issue when the kids were there all the time, never really had time for each other then.

You are correct DART. In this country, it is ALMOST accepted that a lady and a gent will live together and not be married. It has advantages and disadvanatges of course. The children now have the name of the mother and the father as their last names or they can chose.

As you know the Socialist Party candidate for the French Presidency is a lady. She has 4 children with the Party Secretary. So far NO ONE has mentionned this as a point against her. As a bynote, she is a liability but not as a partner in a contracted partner arrangement.

[pointofnoreturn]

People are looking for something or someone to make them feel....complete

[yaser]

Men and women cheat because there is a need to be wanted. If your spouse does not give you that....eventually you will stray...
It is not a stray..the right way..

[spare_change]

People are looking for something or someone to make them feel....complete

Unquestionably, the most profound and accurate post you have contributed.


Well done!

[pointofnoreturn]

It is not a stray..the right way..If you are married then it is a stray....But not forbidden by some of us...:knuddel:

[yaser]

If you are married then it is a stray....But not forbidden by some of us...:knuddel:
Whre are you?forbidden side or unforbidden side? :lf

[pointofnoreturn]

Whre are you?forbidden side or unforbidden side? :lfStill trying to decide that. Have reached the pointof no return, so I guess.......:)

[yaser]

Still trying to decide that. Have reached the pointof no return, so I guess.......:)
Better buy one way ticket..to cut the navel tie..

[p.J]

Ok.. women cheat because their emotional needs or a desire for attention are not being met, she perhaps needs to reaffirm her desirability. Of course sexual excitement comes into it too.

Men cheat primarily for sexual reasons. Sexual variety, sexual curiosity, the thrill of the chase, but also for the desire to feel important or special.

[twoblues]

Men cheat primarily for sexual reasons. Sexual variety, sexual curiosity, the thrill of the chase, but also for the desire to feel important or special.

Yes, yes, yes, and yes. Dang, am I that easy to read?

[joshcamp69]

For the sex!

[p.J]

Yes, yes, yes, and yes. Dang, am I that easy to read?

Well, um, yes actually! :rolleyes:

[spare_change]

Ok.. women cheat because their emotional needs or a desire for attention are not being met, she perhaps needs to reaffirm her desirability. Of course sexual excitement comes into it too.

Men cheat primarily for sexual reasons. Sexual variety, sexual curiosity, the thrill of the chase, but also for the desire to feel important or special.

Sorry, Jen --- you are sooooooo wrong --- but certainly conforms to the popular stereotype, doesn't it?

[p.J]

Sorry, Jen --- you are sooooooo wrong --- but certainly conforms to the popular stereotype, doesn't it?

Thats why it was so easy to post ;) ... but ok they are not all the underlying reasons but certainly the primary ones or motivational ones.

[spare_change]

Thats why it was so easy to post ;) ... but ok they are not all the underlying reasons but certainly the primary ones or motivational ones.

Absolutely not --- look at the posts here. Not one of these guys have said that they banged the neighbor because she's hot, or because she's a blonde.

Every guy says that he cheated because he wasn't getting something he needed at home --- it's not about blowjobs or doggie style. Every guy talks about intimacy and love and closeness. That's what drives guys to cheat -- Point hit right on the button. People, men included, cheat so they can find somebody who makes them feel complete ---- even if it's only for an hour or an evening.

Men, or at least this man, went in search of something missing in his life -- an emptiness that was unfilled, a need unsatisfied. I needed somebody to connect to, somebody who was willing to listen to me, someone who would lift me up rather than kick me in the balls when I was down, someone who didn't blame for everything that was wrong in her little world. I wanted somebody who would look me in the eye, tell me something other than how terrible I was, tell me that it was possible for me to have a good idea (even if it wasn't hers), somebody who (sorry, guys - gonna let the cat out of the bag here) would put her arms around me and tell me it was okay that I wasn't the best at whatever I was trying to be, somebody who gave me a haven to come home to, somebody who gave me warmth and comfort. Most affairs are truly not about sex at all -- they are about communication and intimacy; they are about self worth and pride.

I have watched here as the young and the uninitiated say: once a cheater, always a cheater. I challenge you to change your definition of a cheater -- a cheater is someone with a hole in his/her life, a hole that aches to be filled, a hole that constantly gnaws at you, a hole that taints the rest of your life -- you just don't know how to be happy when that big piece is missing. And, so, you search for someone to fill it, someone to make the ache go away.

When you don't ache any more, you don't cheat any more. It's as simple, and as complex, as that.

[SirFox]

Ok.. women cheat because their emotional needs or a desire for attention are not being met, she perhaps needs to reaffirm her desirability. Of course sexual excitement comes into it too.

Men cheat primarily for sexual reasons. Sexual variety, sexual curiosity, the thrill of the chase, but also for the desire to feel important or special.

You surprise me JEN....I thought more of you.. :( Pretty simplistic your emotional outburts there. :spbx:

[p.J]

You surprise me JEN....I thought more of you.. :( Pretty simplistic your emotional outburts there. :spbx:

Hangs her head in shame... my conclusions are made from what I see and hear, if they are simplistic that is only because I am not informed enough to make deeper explanatory assertions! :cry:

[twoblues]

Hangs her head in shame... my conclusions are made from what I see and hear, if they are simplistic that is only because I am not informed enough to make deeper explanatory assertions! :cry:

Come on over to the "sex is overated" church. Fox and I are having a special on dealing out judgements and "punishments" in the name of the Lady of the Mattress. We just need to finish with Dartgirl first :p

[SirFox]

Hangs her head in shame... my conclusions are made from what I see and hear, if they are simplistic that is only because I am not informed enough to make deeper explanatory assertions! :cry:

You crack me up JENNY. While a lof of life including this Forum has to do with image, I have difficulty believing that you are not informed... :whee:

[GentlemanDC]

Love the family, but need more attention. I think my wife is a beautiful as the day I married her, but she and I need more.

[Inspector72]

Ok.. women cheat because their emotional needs or a desire for attention are not being met, she perhaps needs to reaffirm her desirability. Of course sexual excitement comes into it too.

Men cheat primarily for sexual reasons. Sexual variety, sexual curiosity, the thrill of the chase, but also for the desire to feel important or special.

Interesting take on that! If I were to cheat, being a guy, is not going ot be primarily for sexual reason or needs. But moreso because she just doesn't excite me mentally. There is no challenge, no fun, no adventure or risk, hence she has become complacent, interested more in receiving and her need, than giving when we first met. Yet the thrill of chase is exciting too! As long as she can keep me from getting bored, she'll keep me at home...but seeing I am now pretty much single...I don't have to worry about it!

[p.J]

You crack me up JENNY. While a lof of life including this Forum has to do with image, I have difficulty believing that you are not informed... :whee:

Then you may well be very surprised Fox... :)

[Rmb]

Cheaters break promises. :)

[spare_change]

That would be the same promises about love, honor, and cherish -- the ones she seemed to have conveniently forgot? The ones she ignores every time she turns her nose up at intimacy? The ones she doesn't remember when she rants and raves that nothing you ever do is good enough -- not enough money, not a big enough house, not a new enough car. It would be those promises? The ones that don't seem to apply when she bitches because you decided to take a day off? Or, threatens to take your children away from you if you don't play nice?

[Rmb]

Cheaters break promises no matter what they are....break rules...cheat.
No one is immune. :) :) Everyone cheats sooner or later :) :)

[twoblues]

That would be the same promises about love, honor, and cherish -- the ones she seemed to have conveniently forgot? The ones she ignores every time she turns her nose up at intimacy? The ones she doesn't remember when she rants and raves that nothing you ever do is good enough -- not enough money, not a big enough house, not a new enough car. It would be those promises? The ones that don't seem to apply when she bitches because you decided to take a day off? Or, threatens to take your children away from you if you don't play nice?

Umm....ouch. That's all I can say. That would certainly suck.

[spare_change]

You can't break what is already broken.


(Wow! Think that might be rationalization at its finest???)

[Rmb]

You can't break what is already broken.


(Wow! Think that might be rationalization at its finest???)

Pretty astute I thought :)

[MIGHTY]

That would be the same promises about love, honor, and cherish -- the ones she seemed to have conveniently forgot? The ones she ignores every time she turns her nose up at intimacy? The ones she doesn't remember when she rants and raves that nothing you ever do is good enough -- not enough money, not a big enough house, not a new enough car. It would be those promises? The ones that don't seem to apply when she bitches because you decided to take a day off? Or, threatens to take your children away from you if you don't play nice?

I don't understand why some women are so materialistic. Sure I want a vehicle....that runs. I want a home....to call my own. I want enough money....to live comfortably. I don't rely on him to give me those things. I rely on him to help us make those things a reality for our family. I would never use my son against him.....that would hurt my child as well. I cannot say that he would not do that however, based on comments he has made in the past. What I lack from him is deep love, intimacy, desirability, repect, companionship, and sexual healing. I would trade those thing in any day for a bigger house, more expensive car, and loads of cash. Now, why do women cheat?.............

[nycblueyedman]

I don't understand why some women are so materialistic. Sure I want a vehicle....that runs. I want a home....to call my own. I want enough money....to live comfortably. I don't rely on him to give me those things. I rely on him to help us make those things a reality for our family. I would never use my son against him.....that would hurt my child as well. I cannot say that he would not do that however, based on comments he has made in the past. What I lack from him is deep love, intimacy, desirability, repect, companionship, and sexual healing. I would trade those thing in any day for a bigger house, more expensive car, and loads of cash. Now, why do women cheat?.............it takes two to tango.......or so they say:sex

[OICurready4me]

I don't understand why some women are so materialistic. Sure I want a vehicle....that runs. I want a home....to call my own. I want enough money....to live comfortably. I don't rely on him to give me those things. I rely on him to help us make those things a reality for our family. I would never use my son against him.....that would hurt my child as well. I cannot say that he would not do that however, based on comments he has made in the past. What I lack from him is deep love, intimacy, desirability, repect, companionship, and sexual healing. I would trade those thing in any day for a bigger house, more expensive car, and loads of cash. Now, why do women cheat?.............


I understand your situation very well, mighty and know how hard you have worked ad continue to work, to keep things afloat. Your such a wonderful lady and it's sad to see how under appreciated you are at home, how tough it is at times for you to just go about your business with that empty feeling from the lack of support you get. That is why I treasure you so much as a friend, to be a shoulder to cry on, to support you, lend a helping hand, whatever I can do. You are a special lady and great friend.

[bbop]

I second that OIC! Truer words were never spoken!:wa:

[yaser]

I don't understand why some women are so materialistic. Sure I want a vehicle....that runs. I want a home....to call my own. I want enough money....to live comfortably. I don't rely on him to give me those things. I rely on him to help us make those things a reality for our family. I would never use my son against him.....that would hurt my child as well. I cannot say that he would not do that however, based on comments he has made in the past. What I lack from him is deep love, intimacy, desirability, repect, companionship, and sexual healing. I would trade those thing in any day for a bigger house, more expensive car, and loads of cash. Now, why do women cheat?.............
Hmmmmmmmm what you want X, what you find Y....If X is bigger than Y, you cheat,
If X is smaller than Y, no need to cheat?It seems you have to cheat, I believe Mighty...
But there is a problem:what will you do if X and Y are equal?

[longnhard32]

you call it cheating i call it adding spice to our lives. if your not sure just look it some of the type here . if thats is not spice then i am in the wrong place :wa:

[yaser]

you call it cheating i call it adding spice to our lives. if your not sure just look it some of the type here . if thats is not spice then i am in the wrong place :wa:
Longnhard,Can you tell the samething to your wife?Do you want her to cheat you?

[wwwdodgeit]

is it cheating if the other one does it too , u both said it was ok to open the marriage up

[wwwdodgeit]

soMe say it is , what do u guys think

[longnhard32]

yaser she has freinds i have freinds and as for cheating it depends on how you defin it as there is no prob with having freinds but meals are at home

[yaser]

yaser she has freinds i have freinds and as for cheating it depends on how you defin it as there is no prob with having freinds but meals are at home
How will you cheat?

[NYCMasterplumber]

People cheat because we can and ITS FUN.

There is nothing like the feelings of excitment the first time your in someone new.

Being seduced when your not expecting it.

Picture yourself driving a friends spouse home and by the time you reach their home you both know the sparks are flying.

Unexpected relations are what makes the heart pump, as a hard penis and moist vagina have no conscience (some folks do blame it on booze but we know better) when they say "it just happened"

[yaser]

I have lady friend who cheats her hubby when she feels ditressed with her hubby's behaviors to take revenge..Later she says I wish I had not.I tell her neither cheat nor be regretful..But I always want her to cheat with me..I believe revenge and regret go together..

[pointofnoreturn]

People cheat becasue they just want sex!

[skysthelimit]

Definitely can be an affair even without sex. If the feelings are there, the connection, the lust, the wanting to be together, then let's face it, its the same. Maybe you never had sex with that person, but you know you probably would if you could. I don't see any difference. Maybe the question should be, 'is it cheating' or 'is it infidelity'. And in both cases, I say yes, especially if the feelings that the other person are having are reciprocal. So you didn't have sex.... it's just academic at that point.

[sparkle889beach]

I don't understand why some women are so materialistic. Sure I want a vehicle....that runs. I want a home....to call my own. I want enough money....to live comfortably. I don't rely on him to give me those things. I rely on him to help us make those things a reality for our family. I would never use my son against him.....that would hurt my child as well. I cannot say that he would not do that however, based on comments he has made in the past. What I lack from him is deep love, intimacy, desirability, repect, companionship, and sexual healing. I would trade those thing in any day for a bigger house, more expensive car, and loads of cash. Now, why do women cheat?.............

lack of intellectual connection...Out-growing each other...Less patience...more expectations...

Money or Numbers is objective; than relationships, feelings,which are too subjective...I don't think we can compare, nor exchange one for the other.
:wa:

[tiger50]

People cheat becasue they just want sex!

umm noooo perhaps for a few, but usually goes much deeper than that..... :sc

[pointofnoreturn]

because they cannot feel whole at home...

[gussy422]

because they cannot feel whole at home...
Does that mean I can have a whole feeling?:knuddel:

[gussy422]

because they cannot feel whole at home...
I like tha new avatar. oooooooo:knuddel:

[digi38]

There are a hundred reasons people cheat, I have several friends that have and no two of them have had the same answer. This is too dificult a question to answer in a few lines on a web site...... That is the most serious answer I have ever given on this site.

[Cotties]

I think women cheat because they are sneakier:sc

[Suz]

because they cannot feel whole at home...


OMG...I read that wrong and thought you said

because they can't feel like a whore at home....LOL...

I thought, no, I'm pretty sure I've felt like that a time or two;)

Can't keep my mind out of the gutter

[gussy422]

OMG...I read that wrong and thought you said

because they can't feel like a whore at home....LOL...

I thought, no, I'm pretty sure I've felt like that a time or two;)

Can't keep my mind out of the gutter
Your new avatar is just too hot to handle:whee:

[Suz]

Your new avatar is just too hot to handle:whee:

Well thank you...I got inspired last night in my new pajamas...I'm learning to be
quite the photographer with my cell phone...lol. :dd

[yaser]

I think women cheat because they are sneakier:sc
Cottes,I doon't agree with you totally..The women know that thy have only one life and must use it rationally..I congratulate those who are able to cheat..All cheaters unite...and have power.

[yaser]

Well thank you...I got inspired last night in my new pajamas...I'm learning to be
quite the photographer with my cell phone...lol. :dd
I need a lady photographer...Must have eye to see,composing ability,and be able to make exhibition.

[yaser]

OMG...I read that wrong and thought you said

because they can't feel like a whore at home....LOL...

I thought, no, I'm pretty sure I've felt like that a time or two;)

Can't keep my mind out of the gutter
No, Suzy you are right...A woman at home must be a private whore for me..BUt not ask for money.. :lf but the do task :lf professionally..

[Suz]

I need a lady photographer...Must have eye to see,composing ability,and be able to make exhibition.

Well I do try my best

[yaser]

[QUOTE=Suz1973]Well I do try my best[/QUOTE)
I have a package of training you have to take to make eye exercises..How to look down,up,middle and choose the right composition..

[gussy422]

Well thank you...I got inspired last night in my new pajamas...I'm learning to be
quite the photographer with my cell phone...lol. :dd
You can also use your digital camera with a timer.

[Outta]

OMG...I read that wrong and thought you said

because they can't feel like a whore at home....LOL...

I thought, no, I'm pretty sure I've felt like that a time or two;)

Can't keep my mind out of the gutter
You're such a blonde.

[Suz]

You can also use your digital camera with a timer.


duh really??? .....have done that, but I like my cell ones all the same.

[Suz]

You're such a blonde.


YES I AM OUTTA......YES I AM, AND A HOT ONE AT THAT!

[hoss]

YES I AM OUTTA......YES I AM, AND A HOT ONE AT THAT!

I second that .....SMOKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKING

[Suz]

I second that .....SMOKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKING

:kk :kk :kk :kk :kk :kk

[hoss]

:kk :kk :kk :kk :kk :kk

little lower with those kisses blondie...and look me in the eyes ...:kk

[Suz]

little lower with those kisses blondie...and look me in the eyes ...:kk

Do you think I have forgotten already?

[hoss]

Do you think I have forgotten already?

I hope not ...I'm still trying to recover...You were awesome...:kk

[Suz]

I hope not ...I'm still trying to recover...You were awesome...:kk

Well, I feel the same about you....:kk

[hoss]

Well, I feel the same about you....:kk


:kk im off to watch Simpsons ...Nite gorgoeus ....:wa:

[ridgerunner]

dont know how i cheated hell i dont know how i wound up here but i did and i got 2 live with me 4 it

[ethans_so_bad]

cause it's easier to win than if you play by the rules?

[OICurready4me]

Horny man + non horny woman = cheat



Horny woman + non horny man = cheat


Horny man + horny woman = cheat




Did I miss anything?

[Cotties]

selfishnessHorny man + non horny woman = cheat



Horny woman + non horny man = cheat


Horny man + horny woman = cheat




Did I miss anything?

[dartgirl]

How about maybe to just escape from the realities of life for a little while?

[peaches]

Even though I'm in a bad marriage I would like to believe in love. I f you love that person you don't cheat, but if you don't you get out....But man and woman were ment to be attracted to each other...that is why God made both man and woman...it is just ment to be...some people are worse than others.

[pointofnoreturn]

Even though I'm in a bad marriage I would like to believe in love. I f you love that person you don't cheat, but if you don't you get out....But man and woman were ment to be attracted to each other...that is why God made both man and woman...it is just ment to be...some people are worse than others.I dissagree. You can love your spouse, but still need to be loved. You can also love more than one. God did not make a limit on how many you could have feelings for did he???Not getting religious here.

[Lonelyboy]

Hi, Nice pix! I'm new here so i'm just trying to feel the forum and see how what it's like. As I was scrolling ----I couldn't go any further when i saw your pix.:whee:



if it is something you have to hide...then it is cheating...if you keep it out in the open... then it is not....

[Lonelyboy]

I agree with you.:wa: Hello there!



I dissagree. You can love your spouse, but still need to be loved. You can also love more than one. God did not make a limit on how many you could have feelings for did he???Not getting religious here.

[RedHotPisces]

:wa: hello lonelyboy...welcome :wa:

Hi, Nice pix! I'm new here so i'm just trying to feel the forum and see how what it's like. As I was scrolling ----I couldn't go any further when i saw your pix.:whee:

[tiger50]

I agree with you.:wa: Hello there!

gday mate.... welcome to the site.... stick around and have fun... :wa:

[Lonelyboy]

hey....thanks. so---what's good here



:wa: hello lonelyboy...welcome :wa:

[just want to have some fu]

your sight made me wet.
where are you from

[nsamale]

I have thought about this alot...want to, but dont want to...but want to...im so concused...

[pinstriper23]

Absolutely. Sex is only the physical part of having an affair.

[wwwdodgeit]

i think i could be also

[CJSinIL]

If you masterbate in the same room with a member of the opposite sex who is also masterbating. Is that an affair? I mean, your not touching each other. Its like watching a porn. ha ha.

[G...G]

Absolutely!!!!!

[wwwdodgeit]

i have to say if the other half doesnt ok what u r doing then it is ,if they ok it i dont think it is , no matter what it is , that is the line

[p.J]

surely though at some point the people involved are contemplating sex?? :sc

[CJSinIL]

Well than isn't masterbation by yourself considered an affair. Because not all spouses don't okay that. My wife doesn't okay that before I do it. So therefore, I'm having an affair with myself.

[wwwdodgeit]

what r u doing when u do that , taking to a lady on her , watching a movie >?

[CJSinIL]

Anytime. If you watching a movie, your thinking of other people. If your doing it by yourself, you are usually thinking something, and unless its of your wife, I dont' think she would approve.

[letterman01]

personally, I don't think so.

[Zpanther]

is it an affair if you don't have sex?

hmmmm is WHAT an affair with no sex?

If you are emotionally involved.... attracted to the person they are.... find yourself thinking about them often when they're not around..... missing them when they aren't there... buying new clothes to impress them..... etc..... yeah..... it's an affair..... even if you're not sharing your bodies.... yet.

[Crawfish]

I just want to be intimate with a lady that needs me and finds me sensous, as i do her. What are your thoughts?

Join the club buddy

[pointofnoreturn]

Looking for the same thing, only I think I would prefer a male....

[steamy]

Just pony up to the bar babe:D Looking for the same thing, only I think I would prefer a male....

[hunt4dirtygirl]

Me too Affair. I hope I find a lady like that.

[pointofnoreturn]

I want to be the lady that finds that.....

[Zpanther]

I want to be the lady that finds that.....

Keep it up...... and you just MIGHT!

[cherokeered]

I came here with no expectations....wasn't looking for anyone....just really curious and feeling sorta bored.....lol


I found the site in a search.....don't even remember how and it was amongst a bunch of other sites....

Not sure why I chose this one...or what I was even looking for....but am glad I did.....got much more than I planned....

I just wish everyone could find what I did.....either in your current relationship or a future one.....

[paris]

I came here with no expectations....wasn't looking for anyone....just really curious and feeling sorta bored.....lol


I found the site in a search.....don't even remember how and it was amongst a bunch of other sites....

Not sure why I chose this one...or what I was even looking for....but am glad I did.....got much more than I planned....

I just wish everyone could find what I did.....either in your current relationship or a future one.....

I came here the same as you, Cher. Don't know how and why I chose this site. But it's given me so much. You've found peace. I want that too. And I think I'm close. You are a kind person. One of the first to say hi and offer advice to me. I thank you...and I wish you continued peace and happiness!

[nycblueyedman]

I came here the same as you, Cher. Don't know how and why I chose this site. But it's given me so much. You've found peace. I want that too. And I think I'm close. You are a kind person. One of the first to say hi and offer advice to me. I thank you...and I wish you continued peace and happiness!

i came seeking.......

an octopus i sought
an octopus I caught
it ate me.
the seeker was the sought:sc

[peaches]

You know many years ago I would never think on cheating ....but as I'm ready to call it quits....I stop to think, maybe I should of had an affair...maybe it would be the release I always wanted...Now it's to late..But my children all grown and can take care of there selves.....But think about it make sure you know what you are doing...Good Luck!!!!

[nsamale]

Would love that myself...dont know how...scared of women when it comes to that...wish i wasnt...

[pointofnoreturn]

Would love that myself...dont know how...scared of women when it comes to that...wish i wasnt...You don't sound too scared to me. More like a big flirt. Keep it up and you might get lucky...:D

[majorfun]

The emotional baggage that it brings can be a tough load to carry sometimes...

[nsamale]

I want to be the lady that finds that.....

uve already found that...thats meeee.

[hotrod424]

Sometimes it feels like hide-n-go-seek that just goes on and on and on....

[jman]

I need an affair!

[games]

hi

[games]

il have 1

[p.J]

:wa: Hi games, have a good browse and get writing...

[p.J]

mmmm! Most affairs just happen, you don't go looking for them! But we are certainly looking for 'something' :sc

[OICurready4me]

If you go out looking for one, many times you will fall into something that probably wasn't right for you at the time... but if you just keep your eyes and ears open you'd be amazed at what you may find that is just the right thing at just the right time. As the old adage says, Patience is a virtue.

[veronica]

My marriage is also stale, but I have two kids and would never want to hurt them. I just discovered this site today. I am amazed and grateful. It is hard to talk about this stuff to people who aren't in the same boat.

[anon_user]

It can be tough Veronica, and I'm sure you'll find some of us with a sympathetic ear or a good piece of advice. Let me know if there is anything I can do, will be happy to help out.:lf My marriage is also stale, but I have two kids and would never want to hurt them. I just discovered this site today. I am amazed and grateful. It is hard to talk about this stuff to people who aren't in the same boat.

[veronica]

Thanks anon. I think this site will help a lot.

[joshcamp69]

This is a great place to chat and flirt.

[veronica]

I see that. I have always loved to flirt.

[joshcamp69]

excellent, love a good flirt

[joshcamp69]

have you been to the chat room yet?

[hippydog]

I just want to be intimate with a lady that needs me and finds me sensous, as i do her. What are your thoughts?
thats it? come on... pick something harder!
just kidding..

I think you should give some history on why you find it so important.. I assume your married right now? are you living together?

[Suz]

If you go out looking for one, many times you will fall into something that probably wasn't right for you at the time... but if you just keep your eyes and ears open you'd be amazed at what you may find that is just the right thing at just the right time. As the old adage says, Patience is a virtue.

One that I can't seem to grasp

[hippydog]

i'm not preaching ok guys, i'm just old-fashioned i guess, but we don't cheat, i told mark if he ever wants somebody else all he has to do is say so i'm gone, but i'm a firm believer in our vows, forsaken all others, but then again i'm here, i love to flirt and joke guys you know that. but thats it.
sorry. just had to respond to this..

unless your significant other actually knows your spending time on this forum AND is cool with it....

your cheating..

I realize that their are a few people that are hanging out here as couples (very cool and I salute those people & especially the owners!)..

but lets be honest. I have no proof.. but I am assuming the majority of people who visit this site would be in big Doo doo if their partner found out they were on here..

am I wrong? LOL

[spare_change]

sorry. just had to respond to this..

unless your significant other actually knows your spending time on this forum AND is cool with it....

your cheating..

I realize that their are a few people that are hanging out here as couples (very cool and I salute those people & especially the owners!)..

but lets be honest. I have no proof.. but I am assuming the majority of people who visit this site would be in big Doo doo if their partner found out they were on here..

am I wrong? LOL



Boy, that's the problem with assume ........

[Suz]

Boy, that's the problem with assume ........

I was thinking the same thing

[hippydog]

My marriage is also stale, but I have two kids and would never want to hurt them. I just discovered this site today. I am amazed and grateful. It is hard to talk about this stuff to people who aren't in the same boat.

whats even weirder is when you work at a place where everyone is divorced.. LOL

the sad thing is everyone points at me and asks "whats the secret of a happy marraige"

my answer? I'm to lazy to get divorced & no one else could stand me for more then a month... LOL

[hippydog]

Boy, that's the problem with assume ........

ok... so your saying, (ok.. :sc you didnt say, but you response indicates you dont agree) the majority of married people that visit this site have partners that know they hang out here?

[spare_change]

No -- but I am saying that your generalized assumption is false so many times that it is dangerous to operate under such an assumption.

For example, Sandy's wife is an active member here. On the other hand, my wife couldn't care less if I partied with three hookers from the Bahamas, much less get excited about being a member of this site.

The danger with generalizations is that you tend to paint all people with the same brush, knowing you will be right the majority of the time, but perhaps wrong at the critical times.

[nycblueyedman]

my wife is clueless i hang out here...she would disapprove..oh well

[veronica]

Hey Josh - I think we are corresponding in two different threads. I tried the chat room for a little bit yesterday. Yesterday was my first time on a place like this.

[veronica]

Hi Hippy - your work situation sounds tough. All my friends are happily married, so how can I tell them I am doing something like this. Also, they and their husbands are friends with my husband. I feel very sneaky. It's kind of a good feeling, though - very new to me.

[tendr]

sorry i opened up.

[divorced male 43]

as for right now id just like to find a woman who is looking for the same thing as iam i would like to find a woman who would like to cyber or have phone sex or cam to cam or mic maybe get serious latter down the road if there are any here that feel that way just add me to yahoo or msn this is my address PLEASE DO NOT POST PERSONAL INFORMATION, TO INCLUDE EMAIL OR IM ADDRESSES, ON PUBLIC FORUMS -- THANK YOU. thank u

[nycblueyedman]

i was in a verbally over flowing freakish controlling marriage for 23yrs. i had health probs that kept me from gaining my freedom plus being raised in church felt 'stick it out.' we got married very young. if i had not had 2 daughters i don't think i would have lived thru it. at 44 i met the guy i'm married to now. we became silly online friends. nothing else. i was faithful to the x tho i had to sneak to talk to anyone online..even women. new guy is younger so i became friends with his mother. she and i hung out. he would come around. he treated me very sweetly. i wasn't used to it. my father had been abusive...so i married into it thinking it was pretty much my fault. so now i'm different. i don't take any crap. i can't. i'm quiet. i'm mild and sweet but sort of a loner. after 23yrs i just walked out. got nothing. didn't fight for anything becuz i had no money and at that point i felt guilt even tho i shouldn't have. i didn't want to hurt my kids more than i was already so i took nothing and butthead x refused to pay alimony. i couldn't fight him. i had nothing. i stayed in hiding from my whole family who i knew would make me go back. i got so thin i looked like death walking. i had just a couple yrs earlier built my dream home and i planned it for seven yrs.i gave it all up to have someone be kind to me. now i live in a garage apt.my landlady died recently so this place is up for sale with other property so i don't know what's going to happen to us..but i've found though money is important for your safety, the amount of choices you have in life, (like where do i live next?) it's not so much where you live but who you live with. now i can love freely. i can flirt and joke around and i can listen seriously. i was so faithful to the x i didn't even talk to men. now i will die flirting. . . and if i care for someone i'll be affectionate. my husband i have now isn't worried. he pretty much doesn't think anyone else could take me away if they wanted and i pretty much don't think they'd want to tho i've been told differently...i know male friends are mostly all talk..and as far as cheating...a person can cheat with the same sex too especially now days..so i'm so glad my husband isn't jealous becuz i don't give him any reason to be so he knows i'm in here. and i've had close male friends even come from canada and stay with us (and female too) and he's had close female friends at his work.. but we know where the invisible line is and we keep it. and some ppl don't agree but those are the ppl i don't talk to. life is too short to not allow yourself to follow your heart. i'm very open about talking one to one with someone i care about..i'm affectionate now and that's a big step coming from a place of cruelty for most of my life. so when a guy asks 'as in here' what do i offer a man back and i say 'me' that's enuf...becuz the biggest mistake is to 'give' expecting something back. then it's not giving..it's trading.

all I can say is.............a case of too much info,,,,,,,,:whee:

[spare_change]

all I can say is.............a case of too much info,,,,,,,,:whee:


No such thing, blue --- each of us has a story, each of us sometimes need help, and each of us has lessons learned to be shared. When people reach out, let's not slap their hand.

[tendr]

sorry blue.....you didn't have to read it.

[veronica]

my wife is clueless i hang out here...she would disapprove..oh well

Same here...my husband has no idea and would lose his mind if he knew.

[Pebbles]

Same here...my husband has no idea and would lose his mind if he knew.

veronicab...first welcome here.
My husband has no idea either and he would be upset if he knew.

[pointofnoreturn]

yes please..

[fireaxemike]

Affairs Can Be Fun And Adventurous. It Can Also Help Keep That Certwin Spark In A Marriage, And Let One Know If That Person Is What They Really Want And Need.

[p.J]

Affairs Can Be Fun And Adventurous. It Can Also Help Keep That Certwin Spark In A Marriage, And Let One Know If That Person Is What They Really Want And Need.

mmmm! agree, but who is 'Certwin?'

[fireaxemike]

"certain"

[pointofnoreturn]

"certain"Already tried one have you????:wa:

[Lena]

sorry i opened up.
There isn't anything wrong with you opening up!
It is nice that you felt that you could tell us some of the things so private in your life!
Quite afew members in here open up in here in a public area, where everyone can read it if they want to! As long as it is not disrespectful to any of our members, then it is ok for you to get it out of your system!
If someone cannot cope with what you have to say then they can scroll through it quickly and don't take any notice!!

[Barkiss]

There isn't anything wrong with you opening up!
It is nice that you felt that you could tell us some of the things so private in your life!
Quite afew members in here open up in here in a public area, where everyone can read it if they want to! As long as it is not disrespectful to any of our members, then it is ok for you to get it out of your system!
If someone cannot cope with what you have to say then they can scroll through it quickly and don't take any notice!!


Or they can answer to one of us. :)

[pointofnoreturn]

all of you are very helpful with information and care. I appreciate it more than any of youknow...Thank you

[veronica]

veronicab...first welcome here.
My husband has no idea either and he would be upset if he knew.

Thanks moonstone. I think the sneakiness adds to the fun. Unless you get caught, of course.:lf

[nycblueyedman]

Thanks moonstone. I think the sneakiness adds to the fun. Unless you get caught, of course.:lf

your secret is safe with us..... ;)

[nycblueyedman]

No such thing, blue --- each of us has a story, each of us sometimes need help, and each of us has lessons learned to be shared. When people reach out, let's not slap their hand.

ok...I was just lost by all the details...

[Cotties]

I have lots of emotional affairs.....lucky I can't get charged with emotional adultry or I'd be screwed

[tendr]

Lena
ty..

[tiger50]

sorry blue.....you didn't have to read it.

just read it gal, thanks for sharin that....a little perspective for all of us....
and hey.. its cool... part of what this site/family is about.. sometimes we spill our guts... need a friend, this site is damn good at that.... one thing u will always find here is support.... :wa:

[Lena]

You tell her Tiger!!!

[Lena]

Lena
ty..
You are very welcome! :wa:

[Shiane]

Tendr thanks for sharing, feels good to get it out huh. I know things have been rough, but you're on the right track now. You have made it through the bad times, I hope only good things lie ahead for you. :55

[veronica]

your secret is safe with us..... ;)

Thanks nyc! I feel safe here!:D

[Annie]

Thanks nyc! I feel safe here!:DAwe Veronica... don't get to feeling too safe here... remember Cotties is still hangin around!!

[veronica]

Awe Veronica... don't get to feeling too safe here... remember Cotties is still hangin around!!

True. I see Cottie has a new Avatar. Do I have to wait until I am at 150 before I add an avatar?

[Annie]

True. I see Cottie has a new Avatar. Do I have to wait until I am at 150 before I add an avatar?
If you send one to Penny or Lena they can add it for you. Once you reach 150 though, you can change it on your own.

[veronica]

If you send one to Penny or Lena they can add it for you. Once you reach 150 though, you can change it on your own.

Thanks! Where do you find them?

[Annie]

Thanks! Where do you find them?
Wow that's kind of a good question! The site I was using for them isn't there anymore... boy was I bummed to find that out! I would try doing a google search for free adult avatars and just go from there.

[Lena]

If you send one to Penny or Lena they can add it for you. Once you reach 150 though, you can change it on your own.
Sorry Annie,
Can't change it on their own till they are gold, with 500 posts!:)

http://www.marriedandflirtingchat.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3485&page=3&pp=25

[Annie]

Sorry Annie,
Can't change it on their own till they are gold, with 500 posts!:)

http://www.marriedandflirtingchat.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3485&page=3&pp=25

ooops! My bad.... sorry about that!

[hunt4dirtygirl]

of course most of us in here would be in big doo doo. Gotta have fun though

[veronica]

your secret is safe with us..... ;)

Thanks....I'd hate to have to stop doing this....

How are you nyc??

[zobman]

Sandy, if you think it, then you've already done it in your mind!

awe dav i know that, i'm only flirting back at you, but there is a big diff between what we do and cheating is all i'm saying

[zobman]

If you have cheated, and say you will not leave your spouse, would your spouse leave you if they knew you were cheating? I don'nt mean to sound condisending, but I have been there. The hurt you put on your spouse and family it very big!

[mrdiscreet]

I think for me there is an age aspect; I'm 45 and maybe thinking if I'm going to enjoy life, the clock is ticking; should add this is theoretical for me, but lots of desires.

[cherokeered]

I think for me there is an age aspect; I'm 45 and maybe thinking if I'm going to enjoy life, the clock is ticking; should add this is theoretical for me, but lots of desires.

Everyone has those thoughts hun....that is why this site is a good place to be....you can have fun and flirt....and make friends....but need not go any further if you so choose....

[mrdiscreet]

Thanks, you seem very wise, and I'm sure I'd think so even if you didn't have awesome cheeks!

[suzie147]

I have a theory-

Marriage should be on a 10 year contract - every ten years you have the option to renew - or not...

People change so much after 10 years... marriage should not necessarily be forever
:rules:

[mrdiscreet]

Ah, I'm on 15+, maybe it should be a continuing contract, but with options (on the side)

[SirFox]

I think for me there is an age aspect; I'm 45 and maybe thinking if I'm going to enjoy life, the clock is ticking; should add this is theoretical for me, but lots of desires.

DISCREET: You have some good years of you. The clock is ticking perhaps. You're 45? Don't you think you are pushing it a bit in your old years?Hey ENJOY life.
I am just starting to live...and I am 54! :)

It's all in the head.. :55

[Milk]

Is it considered cheating if your spouse knows about the affair?


Is it considered cheating if your spouse condones the affair?


Is it considered cheating if your spouse encourages the affair?

:knuddel:

[cherokeered]

Is it considered cheating if your spouse knows about the affair?


Is it considered cheating if your spouse condones the affair?


Is it considered cheating if your spouse encourages the affair?

:knuddel:

Nah....wouldnt consider that cheating at all....

[christinalee]

I don't think it's cheating if you both agree on what your doing. Now if your sneaking around and hideing things that's a diffrent storey.

[skysthelimit]

Is it considered cheating if your spouse knows about the affair?


Is it considered cheating if your spouse condones the affair?


Is it considered cheating if your spouse encourages the affair?

:knuddel:

If your spouse encourages it, then I don't think its cheating.

[bobbydean]

the only time you cheat is when you lie about it

[p.J]

Is it considered cheating if your spouse knows about the affair?


Is it considered cheating if your spouse condones the affair?


Is it considered cheating if your spouse encourages the affair?

:knuddel:

I am assuming the spouse is happy with this, so no! :sc

[on my knees]

:spbx: hello

[cherokeered]

G'day and welcome to the site....:wa:


interesting way to say hello.....but it's not that easy and I'm guessing this is what has happened to you....life is never cut and dry...especially when kids are involved.....sometimes affairs keep you in the marriage...it is enough to make it bearable....
sometimes it is the reason you leave the marriage....but it is as always a personal choice....

[pointofnoreturn]

:spbx: helloNo need to be on your knees yet. We have to get to know each other first....Welcome..:dd

[Santafe0384]

My wife and I play a little game sometimes called, Is it cheating if??? For example, she asked is it cheating to kiss a colleague and slip him her tongue? I asked is it cheating if I am attracted to a coworker and squeeze her ass while dancing at a social affair? She asked is it cheating if she remained fully clothed but allowed a colleague to slide his hand inside her panties and finger her? It does lead to alot of fun! and some surprise answers!

[Jy]

I wanted to ask some of the newer members, since this has been a hot topic on here...

If a person cheats, is that a direct reflection of their values or lack of? If a person leaves their partner for their lover, does that mean they will eventually cheat on them as well?
Or is cheating just a desperate attempt to deal with a bad situation? Is it usually a moment of carelessness? Recklessness?

[hank69]

I wanted to ask some of the newer members, since this has been a hot topic on here...

If a person cheats, is that a direct reflection of their values or lack of? If a person leaves their partner for their lover, does that mean they will eventually cheat on them as well?
Or is cheating just a desperate attempt to deal with a bad situation? Is it usually a moment of carelessness? Recklessness?



Yep

[Jy]

Yep what, Hank? All of the above? Yep

[hank69]

Yep what, Hank? All of the above?

May i have the last word......and it will be Yes Dear....:D...Oh that's 2

[Jy]

I love the way you think...:kk May i have the last word......and it will be Yes Dear....:D...Oh that's 2

[Milk]

I honestly believe once a cheater always a cheater and in my house i'm referring to myself. I think people with the tendency to cheat will eventually do it again.

[yaser]

I honestly believe once a cheater always a cheater and in my house i'm referring to myself. I think people with the tendency to cheat will eventually do it again.
But cheating gives much satisfaction to me.

[yaser]

Hunter is always hunted.

[dlbbld63]

Cheaters can be reformed....but I think once a flirt, always a flirt

[bikecopjoe]

I was married for the first time for 10 years. It wasn't until a friend at work told me that he saw her at the movies on a Saturday morning with another guy that I found out. Well, 15 years later and having full custody of my two (2) children, I can safely say that I believe it is okay to look and admire but it not okay to indulge. Still having trouble coming to grips with what she did.

[living to Flirt]

I honestly believe once a cheater always a cheater and in my house i'm referring to myself. I think people with the tendency to cheat will eventually do it again.


I believe you, only if they were able to and not get caught. It becomes the RUSH. The fact that they did it. If they get caught, I think for most, the pain they caused the other person... could scare them straight.

[mimski]

I've been married for over 20 years and a couple of months ago did cheat on someone I met at work. I have never cheated before. My marriage is great. i think when u meet someone that u really connect to (like I did), and we became good friends and then romance cause we see sparks in each other eyes. He is widowed. I don't think I will cheat again after this affair is over cause how often do u meet someone that u connect to and fall in love like I did? Still seeing him-we will be friends forever..

[Wil]

Cheaters can be reformed....but I think once a flirt, always a flirt


don't know that i agree with cheater part....but a flirt...once you've had a taste... it's just too much fun....:D

[peaches]

while i was with him..no never cheated....split up one other time and yes we both did...when we got back together one promise was to never bring them up again..but guess who broke that promise over and over and over again, not me.....but while we were together...no never would...

[scoobertina]

I honestly believe once a cheater always a cheater and in my house i'm referring to myself. I think people with the tendency to cheat will eventually do it again.

I am with you here Milk.. I did it once before and I am sure I will do it again one day...

[peaches]

i agree with both of you's..but if it's a good thing i say go for it....

[spare_change]

I honestly believe once a cheater always a cheater and in my house i'm referring to myself. I think people with the tendency to cheat will eventually do it again.


I get the sense that you believe cheating is part of your genetic makeup, or something. I suppose it is possible that there are those people who cheat just for the rush, as someone said. But, I don't believe that is the majority of cases.

Most people cheat to fill a hole in their lives, to meet a need now unsatisfied. They don't cheat because they enjoy the thrill of sneaking out for a pack of cigarettes that is really an opportunity to call their girlfriend, or pretend to have business meetings on that side of town in order to sneak an hour at her apartment. They cheat because they have a physical, a psychological, an emotional need, a need not being satisfied in their current relationship.

They will continue to cheat until that need is met at home -- if it never is, then they will continue. But ..... if circumstances change, if suddenly their life partner is meeting that need, filling that gap, then the cheating will cease. It ain't about the adrenalin - it's about an emotional hole.

So, I think that it is doing a great disservice to equate cheating to a character flaw or a psychic shortfall. Maybe, they just need something they aren't getting. It isn't always about sex.

[PunkyBob]

Most people cheat to fill a hole in their lives, to meet a need now unsatisfied....They cheat because they have a physical, a psychological, an emotional need, a need not being satisfied in their current relationship.

They will continue to cheat until that need is met at home -- if it never is, then they will continue. But ..... if circumstances change, if suddenly their life partner is meeting that need, filling that gap, then the cheating will cease. It ain't about the adrenalin - it's about an emotional hole...It isn't always about sex.

Well said, spare. I agree. The one time I cheated (although I never allowed myself to think of it that way) was with a woman I became emotionally dependent on; she was filling part of the tremendous gap in my life at that time. The gap included substance abuse, lying, etc., I needed it, she was there. I didn't go looking for it; the woman and I had been long time friends.

Point is, I stayed. The gap healed a bit, but there's a lot still missing. Hence my presence here. The sex is lackluster, robotic. I miss the wildness, the abandon, the adventure. Sex is one of the best things we can imagine; it fulfills us, makes us happy, brings us to that one place nothing else can.

[Sabrina]

having that void in your life is no fun....

[PunkyBob]

having that void in your life is no fun....

Yeah. But hey I get by by keeping real busy. And this place makes me feel sexy and I love the flirting. The sex, too. :sex:D

[dan1961]

No need to be on your knees yet. We have to get to know each other first....Welcome..:dd

whats the best way to get to know someone..ummmm:blowjob:

[scoobertina]

I get the sense that you believe cheating is part of your genetic makeup, or something. I suppose it is possible that there are those people who cheat just for the rush, as someone said. But, I don't believe that is the majority of cases.

Most people cheat to fill a hole in their lives, to meet a need now unsatisfied. They don't cheat because they enjoy the thrill of sneaking out for a pack of cigarettes that is really an opportunity to call their girlfriend, or pretend to have business meetings on that side of town in order to sneak an hour at her apartment. They cheat because they have a physical, a psychological, an emotional need, a need not being satisfied in their current relationship.

They will continue to cheat until that need is met at home -- if it never is, then they will continue. But ..... if circumstances change, if suddenly their life partner is meeting that need, filling that gap, then the cheating will cease. It ain't about the adrenalin - it's about an emotional hole.

So, I think that it is doing a great disservice to equate cheating to a character flaw or a psychic shortfall. Maybe, they just need something they aren't getting. It isn't always about sex.

You are so right, it isn't always about sex.. Thanks hon! :kk

[Shiane]

Cheating is a behavior and that behavior is a direct result of free will. If you want to cheat you will, if don't want to, you won't. It is pretty cut and dry in my opinion. Regardless of the reason, it all boils down to a question of morals and free will.

Some people never cheat.
Some people cheat once.
Some people cheat twice.
Some people cheat repeatedly.

It doesn't matter how you try and justify it, because it is what it is. I don't think it is fair to say that once a cheater, always a cheater. Some people do change, and some people don't.

[yaser]

Cheating is a behavior and that behavior is a direct result of free will. If you want to cheat you will, if don't want to, you won't. It is pretty cut and dry in my opinion. Regardless of the reason, it all boils down to a question of morals and free will.

Some people never cheat.
Some people cheat once.
Some people cheat twice.
Some people cheat repeatedly.

It doesn't matter how you try and justify it, because it is what it is. I don't think it is fair to say that once a cheater, always a cheater. Some people do change, and some people don't.
Honey Shiane,are you ever cheater or never cheater?Or cheating philosopher?

[Shiane]

Honey Shiane,are you ever cheater or never cheater?Or cheating philosopher?


I guess that depends on your definition of cheater. Have I slept with someone else while in a monogamous relationship? No. Have I made mistakes? Yes.

I'm not proud of some of the things I have done, but at least I'm honest. The thing that makes a mistake bad is when you don't learn from it.

[Cotties]

Honey Shiane,are you ever cheater or never cheater?Or cheating philosopher?how about all of the above

[Shiane]

how about all of the above


Blah blah blah! Once again letting your mocking bird mouth overload your humming bird ass! :na

[spare_change]

Cheating is a behavior and that behavior is a direct result of free will. If you want to cheat you will, if don't want to, you won't. It is pretty cut and dry in my opinion. Regardless of the reason, it all boils down to a question of morals and free will.

Some people never cheat.
Some people cheat once.
Some people cheat twice.
Some people cheat repeatedly.

It doesn't matter how you try and justify it, because it is what it is. I don't think it is fair to say that once a cheater, always a cheater. Some people do change, and some people don't.

So -- cheating is a free will decision devoid of outside influences? It is a lack of morals that causes cheaters, right? If they were upright citizens, or maybe even preachers, they would never cheat, right?

Surely -- you jest.

[spare_change]

I guess that depends on your definition of cheater. Have I slept with someone else while in a monogamous relationship? No. Have I made mistakes? Yes.

I'm not proud of some of the things I have done, but at least I'm honest. The thing that makes a mistake bad is when you don't learn from it.


I think I'm surprised that you consider cheating, in all instances, to be a mistake. I guess cheaters are just weak kneed, no-accounts, who just can't control their impulses, huh?

[yaser]

how about all of the above
Wonderful.

[yaser]

I guess that depends on your definition of cheater. Have I slept with someone else while in a monogamous relationship? No. Have I made mistakes? Yes.

I'm not proud of some of the things I have done, but at least I'm honest. The thing that makes a mistake bad is when you don't learn from it.
Does that mean you will never cheat?No hope ? :knuddel:

[IMaLady]

Before coming to this site I never considered myself as much of a flirt. All the flirting and talk of cyber sex has me thinking how often does online flirting really turn into cyber sex?



For me I find myself flirting with a lot of the sexy men here and yes for me a time or two it has turned to cyber sex but only with a special man. Im not the kind of girl who turns every flirty conversation into sex. I find the flirting to very mentally stimulating, a great boost of condfidence, and hell of a lot of fun.

[Dsparate No More]

I agree with you...It is a lot of fun. I only have cybersex with special men as well. For me, every flirtation doesn't have to turn into sex and if I get a PM from a man I don't know wanting cybersex, I ignore him. Good thread...

:)

[Amaretto]

I agree with you...It is a lot of fun. I only have cybersex with special men as well. For me, every flirtation doesn't have to turn into sex and if I get a PM from a man I don't know wanting cybersex, I ignore him. Good thread...

:)

You're getting pm's from men here directly requesting cyber sex??? That just seems a bit icky. Thankfully most of the men I've met here are really quite decent, respectful, and deeper than that. Any cybering I've done happens only after a mutually friendly and respectful relationship has already been established, with a verrrry small number of men.

[Blue Skies]

I'm new so never for me. Here's a question for you pros... what's involved in good flirting that leads to cyber?

[Sunfiresix]

I don't know--but if you treat a woman nice and are pretty decent --I would say you have some chances, Good luk anyway.

[pointofnoreturn]

I am trying to break cyber sex record...You with me????:D

[Sunfiresix]

I am trying to break cyber sex record...You with me????:D

From what I can see:whee: You will not have a problem. :55

[pointofnoreturn]

From what I can see:whee: You will not have a problem. :55I am hoping that is a compliment, and you did not just call me a slut muffin???????????????:dd

[ck]

count me in, point

[pointofnoreturn]

count me in, pointthank you. I got you in my little(Big ) black book..:lf

[missgrace]

aww i love a lil flirt...

[AffableOne]

I flirt a lil through posts......but mostly I'm all talk.....

I love great conversation.....and have made several friends here who also enjoy great discussions....

cyber doesn't really do anything for me in general...I prefer the real deal...

but, when there is a connection of minds, I feel naturally turned on......

when there is a connection of souls (once in my lifetime).....

my whole world is turned upside down

I can't stop thinking of her

mostly her presence.....

how my soul longs for her company....

and yes, how my body longs for hers...

....

so in short.....

I talk with many....

I flirt with a few...

I am whole, in one.

[p.J]

so in short.....

I talk with many....

I flirt with a few...

I am whole, in one.

beautiful, however, should it not be "I am whole, only with one" :)

Do you play golf by chance Affable?? Ok! Ok! don't bonk me over the head... I am just curious!

[Amaretto]

beautiful, however, should it not be "I am whole, only with one" :)

Do you play golf by chance Affable?? Ok! Ok! don't bonk me over the head... I am just curious!

Oh Jen!!! I was just thinking what a beautiful post Affable wrote, and you managed to turn the "whole in one" into a golf joke! :lmao

Aff, you can write mushy stuff like that to me. I promise I won't make jokes like Jen did! ;)

[sawflyman]

I have flirted a lot. but only had turn to cyber sex once that was a cam to cam thing

[p.J]

Oh Jen!!! I was just thinking what a beautiful post Affable wrote, and you managed to turn the "whole in one" into a golf joke! :lmao

Aff, you can write mushy stuff like that to me. I promise I won't make jokes like Jen did! ;)

Sorreeeeeeeeee! Honest! :)

I'll have Cotties or Spare after me now...

mumble mumble!

[Blue Skies]

Jenny you say it all in your name... pragmatic! That's a good thing... no guessing! Love that!

[ck]

thank you. I got you in my little(Big ) black book..:lf

I'm gonna get some gold stars put next to my name in your book, baby!!