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OICurready4me
01-17-2007, 05:56 PM
Over the recent years, there has been more and more instances where normal everyday life has had to be altered due to someone being offended by something that was stated/done/assumed...

Due you think that this PC world that we currently live in is getting out of hand?

pointofnoreturn
01-17-2007, 06:00 PM
I think everyone should do or say what they mean. I do...

yaser
01-17-2007, 06:03 PM
I think everyone should do or say what they mean. I do...
You say first what you mean..I want to her you..Have you bought a mic?

p.J
01-17-2007, 06:07 PM
King Charles I is reported to have described St Paul's Cathedral as "awful, artificial and amusing", meaning it filled him with awe, displayed great artisan ship and was pleasing to look upon. Our language is dynamic, changing and alive. PC harping back to historical meanings, is stagnating and killing the greatest language in the world. I say stop the bloody nonsense now!

spare_change
01-17-2007, 06:08 PM
Over the recent years, there has been more and more instances where normal everyday life has had to be altered due to someone being offended by something that was stated/done/assumed...

Due you think that this PC world that we currently live in is getting out of hand?

I think i agree with my ol' grandpappy when he was asked about the PC folks---


"fuck em all"

Barkiss
01-17-2007, 06:11 PM
I absolutely, 100% denounce political correctness. This does not mean I support anti-racial slurs or other means of malicious offense; however, if I say Merry Christmas to a Jewish person...then tell me you are Jewish and I will wish you Happy Hannakah...

Rmb
01-17-2007, 06:12 PM
I think i agree with my ol' grandpappy when he was asked about the PC folks---


"fuck em all"

Now there's political correctness :)
'Cept for your remark about "ol' grandpappy" ...:D

p.J
01-17-2007, 06:19 PM
Ok shouting from my soap box now! ...


OI! yes you! I'm deeply offended by all forms of political correctness. I find it an affront to civil liberties and freedom of thought. I now want to know what the PC brigade intend to do about this and how they intend to adjust their behaviour and language to stop further offence being caused... that should do it! :55

spare_change
01-17-2007, 06:20 PM
Damn! You guys convinced me i don't dare believe in God!!


NOW you're going to take Political Correctness away from me, too???


What's left in this world?

pointofnoreturn
01-17-2007, 06:23 PM
Beer and wine

spare_change
01-17-2007, 06:24 PM
Beer and wine


Thank GOD !!



Oops!! I didn't mean to say that -- I'm sorry!!! Honest!! I didnt' thank God, it was just an expression!!!! Nooooo -- don't take me away!!!!

p.J
01-17-2007, 06:24 PM
"Golly gosh", the country is being "blackmailed", immigration statistics are being "whitewashed" by the trendy liberal/left "camp". All very "queer" to me! :lmao

Outta
01-17-2007, 07:03 PM
Fuck islamo-fascism
Fuck illegal immigration
Fuck the ACLU
Fuck prisoner's rights

and what's wrong with posting in a school:
Don't Kill, Don't Steal, Don't Covet, Don't Commit Adultery, Honor Your Elders, Don't lie

Get the point? We need to be able to say what needs to be said without being accused of being insensitive.

p.J
01-17-2007, 07:07 PM
Love this ...


Lake County, Minn.


Residents of Lake Coubnty, Minn. are thumbing their noses at a Minnesota state law mandating that they rename Squaw Creek and Squaw Bay to something less offensive.

Many of the state's 55,000 American Indians find the the word "squaw" historically used to describe an American Indian woman, to be an obscenity, according to a story in the New York Times.

Other Minnesota counties complied with the renaming law. Squaw was removed from the names of 19 sites - creeks ponds, and lakes,etc,

Not Lake County. They said there is nothing offensive in the term "squaw". The issue, they said, is whether local representation will rule or state bureaucracy. Meanwhile in protest, they offered to rename the bodies of water Politically Correct Creek and Politically Correct Bay.

:55

twoblues
01-17-2007, 07:10 PM
Fuck islamo-fascism
Fuck illegal immigration
Fuck the ACLU
Fuck prisoner's rights

and what's wrong with posting in a school:
Don't Kill, Don't Steal, Don't Covet, Don't Commit Adultery, Honor Your Elders, Don't lie

Get the point? We need to be able to say what needs to be said without being accused of being insensitive.

And I think most people would agree with you.

I think that the needle has swung too far towards being 'PC' and now you'll find that it is starting to swing back the other way towards more "common sense".

Eventually, the needle will fall in the middle between respecting other people and also not being afraid to say things that should be common sense. Of course, not everyones opinion of common sense is equal.

p.J
01-17-2007, 07:31 PM
Nothing like calling a spade a spade:) :)

Oops sorry Jesse : :) :D

LOL!!!! Cheeky monkey.. O my thats not allowed either! :D

Rmb
01-17-2007, 07:33 PM
LOL!!!! Cheeky monkey.. O my thats not allowed either! :D

Which the cheeky ..or the monkey? lol :D

flamengo130
01-17-2007, 08:12 PM
Fuck islamo-fascism
Fuck illegal immigration
Fuck the ACLU
Fuck prisoner's rights

and what's wrong with posting in a school:
Don't Kill, Don't Steal, Don't Covet, Don't Commit Adultery, Honor Your Elders, Don't lie

Get the point? We need to be able to say what needs to be said without being accused of being insensitive.

Guess I have to agree. America is going to be a real hell hole for my grandkids and their grandkids. Wish I had an easy solution, but "nuke em till they glow and shoot em in the dark" is kinda not politically correct.

Penny
01-17-2007, 09:49 PM
I like 80% of what the ACLU does

OICurready4me
01-17-2007, 09:57 PM
I think we have gone so overboard with political correctness that it is to the point of ridiculousness. I believe it all started when Clinton was in office and it is like a childrens playground. This one said this and this one called me that so everybody say your sorry and that it won't happen again. What's next, we all stand hand-in-hand and sing Kumbaya!

spare_change
01-17-2007, 10:32 PM
Guess I have to agree. America is going to be a real hell hole for my grandkids and their grandkids. Wish I had an easy solution, but "nuke em till they glow and shoot em in the dark" is kinda not politically correct.


No --- but it's effective.


Remember, history is written by the winners, cuz the losers are dead.

rainbowhigh
01-18-2007, 01:45 AM
Why do we have to be PC in order to show respect to other people? I was raised to say yes/no ma'am/sir, and to help people out whenever I can. There's nothing PC about that - it's common courtesy. Do you have to be rude and crass to get your point across? NO! There is a thing called tact. But in my mind, tact does not equal having to be PC. It means you say what you have to say with respect of the other individual in mind. I get tired having to constantly think about "Am I saying this the right way?" "Should I call this person Asian, oriental, or try to guess what country they are from?" I have found myself point blank asking a black person how they want to be referred to because I never know. Some want to be called black, some African American. I run the risk of offending no matter what I say.

So what do I say? "Hey you?" Now that's just rude! :D

Insider
01-18-2007, 01:50 AM
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Insider
01-18-2007, 02:00 AM
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MCat
01-18-2007, 07:25 AM
Which Federal Holidays Are Politically Correct?
Up to now, I haven't paid much attention to the worries expressed by some fundamentalist Christians about alleged efforts by "secular humanists" to "de-Christianize" the United States. Frankly, these assertions seemed a little too far "out there" for me. However, following the rash of recent news reports about zealous actions to completely separate Christmas from anything funded with tax dollars, I'm beginning to wonder. (My favorite outrageous story was about the boy who was sent home from his school holiday party because he wore a Santa Claus costume, which, after all, derived from St. Nicholas).

I think the time has come for us to insist that the people who advocate these radically secular positions have the courage of their convictions, and follow them to their logical conclusion. Obviously, the first step in this direction should be the introduction of legislation eliminating Christmas as a federal holiday. While they're at it, they should also demand the elimination of Martin Luther King Day. After all, he was an ordained minister, and ended his "I Have A Dream" speech with the words "When we let freedom ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God's children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual, 'Free at last! free at last! thank God Almighty, we are free at last!'"

Unfortunately, Presidents Day will also have to go. George Washington noted in his first inaugural address that "it would be peculiarly improper to omit in this first official act my fervent supplications to that Almighty Being who rules over the universe, who presides in the councils of nations, and whose providential aids can supply every human defect, that His benediction may consecrate to the liberties and happiness of the people of the United States a Government instituted by themselves for these essential purposes, and may enable every instrument employed in its administration to execute with success the functions allotted to his charge. In tendering this homage to the Great Author of every public and private good, I assure my self that it expresses your sentiments not less than my own, nor those of my fellow-citizens at large less than either." As for Abraham Lincoln, we can't overlook his words in the Emancipation Proclamation: "Upon this act, sincerely believed to be an act of justice, warranted by the Constitution, upon military necessity, I invoke the considerate judgment of mankind, and the gracious favor of Almighty God." Neither of these Presidents, great though they were, passes today's "
strictly secular" test of political correctness. That means Presidents Day is out.

Well what about Memorial Day, then? Hmm, all those war dead in cemeteries, marked solemnly by row after row of crosses and Stars of David. That simply won't do. This federal holiday will also have to go.

This brings us to Independence Day. What can you say about a holiday that celebrates a Declaration that includes the following politically incorrect language: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." Sorry, but this one doesn't pass muster either.

On to Labor Day. This one stays. As the Department of Labor notes on its website, "The form that the observance and celebration of Labor Day should take were outlined in the first proposal of the holiday — a street parade to exhibit to the public the strength and esprit de corps of the trade and labor organizations." What's not to like about a holiday with no religious connotations, and an underlying theme of class war?

Next up on the list is Columbus Day. Though its religious connections are relatively weak, no self-respecting secular multiculturalist would object to getting rid of this one. Nor would Leif Erikson's fans. This is an easy call: Columbus Day is definitely out.

What about Veterans Day? To begin with, there is that awkward saying about there being no atheists in foxholes. But more important, the original 1926 law making it a federal holiday noted that "it is fitting that the recurring anniversary of [Armistice Day] should be commemorated with thanksgiving and prayer and exercises designed to perpetuate peace through good will and mutual understanding between nations." I'm afraid it also must go.

And what can you say about Thanksgiving? Celebrating a bunch of religious extremists thanking God for helping them to survive their first year in the New World? Are you kidding? This holiday is obviously too politically incorrect to pass muster under the new rules.

But, lest you get too depressed, New Year's Day also will remain a holiday, since it seems inoffensive according to every measure of political correctness I could find. In sum, if taken to its conclusion, the logic of radical secularism should leave us with just two federal holidays instead of the present ten. But that's a small price to pay for ridding our public life of all those awful references to faith and religion , isn't it?




http://ripolicyanalysis.org/PoliticallyCorrectHolidays.html

Shiane
01-18-2007, 08:58 AM
This whole Political Correctness absolutely annoys the hell out of me! I think we are all being censored to be a rated G nation. You can't say this because if offends these people, and you can't say that because it offends those people. We not being able to say and do exactly what I want more than offends me. I am sick and tired of people yelling discrimination because they didn't like what they heard or saw. Get over it or get out. I have rights too! I'm not going to sugar coat it because someone might get their precious little feelings hurt!

So yeah Spare Screw em all!

Rmb
01-18-2007, 09:32 AM
This whole Political Correctness absolutely annoys the hell out of me! I think we are all being censored to be a rated G nation. You can't say this because if offends these people, and you can't say that because it offends those people. We not being able to say and do exactly what I want more than offends me. I am sick and tired of people yelling discrimination because they didn't like what they heard or saw. Get over it or get out. I have rights too! I'm not going to sugar coat it because someone might get their precious little feelings hurt!

So yeah Spare Screw em all!

Hehehehehehehe...I knew I liked you :) :) 'Cept for word screw...so politically correct :) :) :D

Sandy
01-18-2007, 10:16 AM
very well said, i agree 100 percent :55













This whole Political Correctness absolutely annoys the hell out of me! I think we are all being censored to be a rated G nation. You can't say this because if offends these people, and you can't say that because it offends those people. We not being able to say and do exactly what I want more than offends me. I am sick and tired of people yelling discrimination because they didn't like what they heard or saw. Get over it or get out. I have rights too! I'm not going to sugar coat it because someone might get their precious little feelings hurt!

So yeah Spare Screw em all!

Outta
01-18-2007, 10:23 AM
Which Federal Holidays Are Politically Correct?
Up to now, I haven't paid much attention to the worries expressed by some fundamentalist Christians about alleged efforts by "secular humanists" to "de-Christianize" the United States. Frankly, these assertions seemed a little too far "out there" for me. However, following the rash of recent news reports about zealous actions to completely separate Christmas from anything funded with tax dollars, I'm beginning to wonder. (My favorite outrageous story was about the boy who was sent home from his school holiday party because he wore a Santa Claus costume, which, after all, derived from St. Nicholas).

I think the time has come for us to insist that the people who advocate these radically secular positions have the courage of their convictions, and follow them to their logical conclusion. Obviously, the first step in this direction should be the introduction of legislation eliminating Christmas as a federal holiday. While they're at it, they should also demand the elimination of Martin Luther King Day. After all, he was an ordained minister, and ended his "I Have A Dream" speech with the words "When we let freedom ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God's children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual, 'Free at last! free at last! thank God Almighty, we are free at last!'"

Unfortunately, Presidents Day will also have to go. George Washington noted in his first inaugural address that "it would be peculiarly improper to omit in this first official act my fervent supplications to that Almighty Being who rules over the universe, who presides in the councils of nations, and whose providential aids can supply every human defect, that His benediction may consecrate to the liberties and happiness of the people of the United States a Government instituted by themselves for these essential purposes, and may enable every instrument employed in its administration to execute with success the functions allotted to his charge. In tendering this homage to the Great Author of every public and private good, I assure my self that it expresses your sentiments not less than my own, nor those of my fellow-citizens at large less than either." As for Abraham Lincoln, we can't overlook his words in the Emancipation Proclamation: "Upon this act, sincerely believed to be an act of justice, warranted by the Constitution, upon military necessity, I invoke the considerate judgment of mankind, and the gracious favor of Almighty God." Neither of these Presidents, great though they were, passes today's "
strictly secular" test of political correctness. That means Presidents Day is out.

Well what about Memorial Day, then? Hmm, all those war dead in cemeteries, marked solemnly by row after row of crosses and Stars of David. That simply won't do. This federal holiday will also have to go.

This brings us to Independence Day. What can you say about a holiday that celebrates a Declaration that includes the following politically incorrect language: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." Sorry, but this one doesn't pass muster either.

On to Labor Day. This one stays. As the Department of Labor notes on its website, "The form that the observance and celebration of Labor Day should take were outlined in the first proposal of the holiday — a street parade to exhibit to the public the strength and esprit de corps of the trade and labor organizations." What's not to like about a holiday with no religious connotations, and an underlying theme of class war?

Next up on the list is Columbus Day. Though its religious connections are relatively weak, no self-respecting secular multiculturalist would object to getting rid of this one. Nor would Leif Erikson's fans. This is an easy call: Columbus Day is definitely out.

What about Veterans Day? To begin with, there is that awkward saying about there being no atheists in foxholes. But more important, the original 1926 law making it a federal holiday noted that "it is fitting that the recurring anniversary of [Armistice Day] should be commemorated with thanksgiving and prayer and exercises designed to perpetuate peace through good will and mutual understanding between nations." I'm afraid it also must go.

And what can you say about Thanksgiving? Celebrating a bunch of religious extremists thanking God for helping them to survive their first year in the New World? Are you kidding? This holiday is obviously too politically incorrect to pass muster under the new rules.

But, lest you get too depressed, New Year's Day also will remain a holiday, since it seems inoffensive according to every measure of political correctness I could find. In sum, if taken to its conclusion, the logic of radical secularism should leave us with just two federal holidays instead of the present ten. But that's a small price to pay for ridding our public life of all those awful references to faith and religion , isn't it?




http://ripolicyanalysis.org/PoliticallyCorrectHolidays.html



Man, that was well said. Thanks for that. I almost couldn't read it staring at that new avatar.

Shiane
01-18-2007, 10:28 AM
Hehehehehehehe...I knew I liked you :) :) 'Cept for word screw...so politically correct :) :) :D

Yeah yeah I know, but I am trying to break a bad habit and not say the "F" word. I gotta say it's easier not to type it than not say it, whew that word just seems to pop out of my mouth way too much.

So much for my New Years Resolution............. Fuck em all! :D

Rmb
01-18-2007, 11:29 AM
Yeah yeah I know, but I am trying to break a bad habit and not say the "F" word. I gotta say it's easier not to type it than not say it, whew that word just seems to pop out of my mouth way too much.

So much for my New Years Resolution............. Fuck em all! :D

:lmao

Shiane
01-18-2007, 11:35 AM
:lmao

I don't think that laughing at me is politically correct!:na

Rmb
01-18-2007, 11:36 AM
I don't think that laughing at me is politically correct!:na

Thats why it's fun:)...and I am laffing with you... not at you hehehehehe. :D

Shiane
01-18-2007, 11:54 AM
Thats why it's fun:)...and I am laffing with you... not at you hehehehehe. :D

Well that reply was quite a display of political correctness. However, the politically incorrect way to have responded would have been.......

Kiss my ass, I can laugh at you if I want too!:D


;) lol :wa:

OICurready4me
01-18-2007, 11:58 AM
Yeah yeah I know, but I am trying to break a bad habit and not say the "F" word. I gotta say it's easier not to type it than not say it, whew that word just seems to pop out of my mouth way too much.

So much for my New Years Resolution............. Fuck em all! :D

Way to go, Shiane! Nothing like putting some emotion into it!

Rmb
01-18-2007, 12:27 PM
Well that reply was quite a display of political correctness. However, the politically incorrect way to have responded would have been.......

Kiss my ass, I can laugh at you if I want too!:D


;) lol :wa:

I will keep that in mind :)

Shiane
01-18-2007, 12:34 PM
I will keep that in mind :)

I'm sure you will! :whee:

Rmb
01-18-2007, 12:37 PM
I'm sure you will! :whee:

In a politically incorrect way !! :) :D

p.J
01-18-2007, 12:53 PM
In a politically incorrect way !! :) :D

You are such a slut Rhumba!! :D ner ner ner nerrrrrrrrrrr!

dartgirl
01-18-2007, 12:54 PM
Another thought in alot of this PC crap is money. If you are offended sue somebody make a pile of money. There is always a lawyer out there willing to sue so he can make a quick buck. Being PC is worth alot of money if you pick the right cause.

nugnugwinkwink
09-18-2008, 12:30 PM
like most things we are confronted with these days ,,it is something else that has gone way over the top...........

OICurready4me
11-18-2008, 09:15 PM
Another thought in alot of this PC crap is money. If you are offended sue somebody make a pile of money. There is always a lawyer out there willing to sue so he can make a quick buck. Being PC is worth alot of money if you pick the right cause.

that is pretty sad, isn't it

MrHyde
11-18-2008, 09:49 PM
I agree that sometimes it can get out of hand...however, it can and does serve a purpose. I think that we need to be sensitive to what others may find offensive. I also think that people must be given the benefit of a doubt when they say something un PC, because honestly who can keep up with all the new PC terms. As an individual I have been referred to as a Latino, Hispanic, Mexican, Mexican-American, Spanish, and other unmentionable names. You wanna be PC? Ask each individual how they identify themselves and try to remember what they say...if it's important to them, and they matter to you...it should be worth remembering.

Kevinkc53
11-20-2008, 09:29 AM
I think that if someone is offended by what I say, they have every right to be, why should I take their right to be offended away by being politically correct.

airborne soldier
11-20-2008, 09:35 AM
I hate being PC!... What as this Country come too? In the Army you reallllyy have to watch what you say, the slightest variation to anything will get your ass in a sling.

SydneyCarton
02-02-2009, 08:30 AM
It is absolutely out of hand. And its application is highly uneven.

Forster2
02-02-2009, 08:44 AM
PC is about the state telling us what we can and cannot think and do. It is a devious and pernicious form of censorship

KindheartedWoman
02-16-2009, 08:13 AM
Be nice always. I have to add that the online world is no exception. PC is a topic larger than can be discussed in this forum.