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Annie
03-07-2007, 12:07 AM
What city would you like the Olympics to be held in 2016? Chicago or Los Angeles?
Cotties
03-07-2007, 12:14 AM
How do you know who's going to win?
Cotties
03-07-2007, 12:14 AM
oh wait...is the U.S deciding what city will make the bid?
wwwdodgeit
03-07-2007, 01:23 AM
i would like to know if u guys hear anything
Annie
03-07-2007, 06:32 AM
oh wait...is the U.S deciding what city will make the bid?Yes, the Olympic Committee has been in Chicago for a few days. They had a final reception at the Chicago Art Museum last night. I guess it's on to L.A. next...
I hope its Chicago.....we might actually get to go take a peek then. Would be so cool to see all the hoopla.
Outta
03-07-2007, 07:44 AM
Hoss and Momma should host them up in BC
Cotties
03-07-2007, 07:56 AM
As an outsider I would like to see Chicago
Have they discussed how much debt it will put Chicago in order to get all the facilities?
Annie
03-07-2007, 08:03 AM
As an outsider I would like to see Chicago
Have they discussed how much debt it will put Chicago in order to get all the facilities?A construction company has offered one billion dollars to build Olympic City near McCormack Place and the lake (just outside out downtown the area) ... the plans look awsome!
The committee is going to the site and various other areas today.
here's a link.....
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=local&id=5095245
creativecouple
03-07-2007, 11:02 AM
What city would you like the Olympics to be held in 2016? Chicago or Los Angeles?
Oh come on, what about Cleveland Ohio.....:sc .......:lmao :lmao
Annie
03-07-2007, 11:41 AM
Oh come on, what about Cleveland Ohio.....:sc .......:lmao :lmaoWell I'm quite sure that there are so many things to see and do in Cleveland that no one would show up for the games! They can't possibly have it there!
twoblues
03-07-2007, 10:13 PM
I say LA. They were successful in the past and they are in my time zone :p
pointofnoreturn
03-08-2007, 06:53 PM
I hope it is chicago. I would love to go there. Never been...
Bloody Olympics! as much I love watching them, and admire the athletes soooooooo much! As you know we have won the bid to hold them in this country and while it was a proud proud moment, we've only been going for 1 year and already the costs have tripled. By 2012 the cost will be at least ten times the original estimated cost and for what? 10 days of running and jumping? How can this government justify spending 9bn + of public money on a sports event when half our population cannot get to see a doctor, wait 2 yrs to have an operation and have people begging and sleeping on the street.... Ok sorry for hijacking!!
spare_change
03-08-2007, 08:06 PM
Bloody Olympics! as much I love watching them, and admire the athletes soooooooo much! As you know we have won the bid to hold them in this country and while it was a proud proud moment, we've only been going for 1 year and already the costs have tripled. By 2012 the cost will be at least ten times the original estimated cost and for what? 10 days of running and jumping? How can this government justify spending 9bn + of public money on a sports event when half our population cannot get to see a doctor, wait 2 yrs to have an operation and have people begging and sleeping on the street.... Ok sorry for hijacking!!
A fair question -- as Los Angeles showed, you can hold an Olympics, and not go broke. By their estimate, the taxes received, as a result of that 10 days, exceeded the cost of the Olympics by 8 %. That means that Los Angeles made about $42 Million on the deal. This obviously does not consider the additional income in the out-years for the use of the expanded facilities, nor the impact long term of the marketing on future tourism.
Cotties
03-09-2007, 01:57 AM
Lets just hope England can win a few medals.....but Spare is correct. We just had them in Sydney a few years back and peopled whined and looked for anything they could find to complain about. But truth be told the transport system will be improved and the tourist dollars that flow in for years will make it worth its while. Bloody Olympics! as much I love watching them, and admire the athletes soooooooo much! As you know we have won the bid to hold them in this country and while it was a proud proud moment, we've only been going for 1 year and already the costs have tripled. By 2012 the cost will be at least ten times the original estimated cost and for what? 10 days of running and jumping? How can this government justify spending 9bn + of public money on a sports event when half our population cannot get to see a doctor, wait 2 yrs to have an operation and have people begging and sleeping on the street.... Ok sorry for hijacking!!
CJSinIL
03-09-2007, 01:23 PM
I'm from Illinois and I hope LA gets it. Too much money wasted to put on the Olympics. Every city that has had to build stadiums and the athletes village has still not recovered. The governor of Illinois is already trying to put the highest tax hike ever in Illinois through. Let the olympics go to LA, we don't need it in Chicago. Chicago can't even fix their roads in a timely fashion, how are we going to get stadiums built?
CJSinIL
03-09-2007, 01:25 PM
People shouldnt' sleep on the street. Get a hotel room. And many of the beggers you see in major cities make more than I do per year. Sad fact, but true.
Bloody Olympics! as much I love watching them, and admire the athletes soooooooo much! As you know we have won the bid to hold them in this country and while it was a proud proud moment, we've only been going for 1 year and already the costs have tripled. By 2012 the cost will be at least ten times the original estimated cost and for what? 10 days of running and jumping? How can this government justify spending 9bn + of public money on a sports event when half our population cannot get to see a doctor, wait 2 yrs to have an operation and have people begging and sleeping on the street.... Ok sorry for hijacking!!
Annie
03-09-2007, 01:52 PM
I'm from Illinois and I hope LA gets it. Too much money wasted to put on the Olympics. Every city that has had to build stadiums and the athletes village has still not recovered. The governor of Illinois is already trying to put the highest tax hike ever in Illinois through. Let the olympics go to LA, we don't need it in Chicago. Chicago can't even fix their roads in a timely fashion, how are we going to get stadiums built?Yes, the Governor of Illinois is trying to put through the largest tax hike in IL history, but he is raising them for major companies in the state who are not paying their fair share. That tax hike is not one that will be added on to our income taxes.
The city of Chicago has in place a new way of tracking pot holes, almost all of the major expressways in and around the city have been rebuilt or are now in the process of being rebuilt. I don't know how much you travel through Chicago, but in the past few years I have seen a huge improvement.
I think Spare has already explained the dollars and cents of it quite nicely ...
A fair question -- as Los Angeles showed, you can hold an Olympics, and not go broke. By their estimate, the taxes received, as a result of that 10 days, exceeded the cost of the Olympics by 8 %. That means that Los Angeles made about $42 Million on the deal. This obviously does not consider the additional income in the out-years for the use of the expanded facilities, nor the impact long term of the marketing on future tourism.
CJSinIL
03-09-2007, 02:40 PM
I drive to Chicago quite a bit. The tax isn't just for the major companies either from what I have heard. But it is what it is. I have seen a huge improvement as well, but whenever there is construction in Chicago, it never gets finished on time. Thats the only point I was making.
Yes, the Governor of Illinois is trying to put through the largest tax hike in IL history, but he is raising them for major companies in the state who are not paying their fair share. That tax hike is not one that will be added on to our income taxes.
The city of Chicago has in place a new way of tracking pot holes, almost all of the major expressways in and around the city have been rebuilt or are now in the process of being rebuilt. I don't know how much you travel through Chicago, but in the past few years I have seen a huge improvement.
I think Spare has already explained the dollars and cents of it quite nicely ...
OICurready4me
03-09-2007, 02:49 PM
I drive to Chicago quite a bit. The tax isn't just for the major companies either from what I have heard. But it is what it is. I have seen a huge improvement as well, but whenever there is construction in Chicago, it never gets finished on time. Thats the only point I was making.
That is a worthy point, on top of the fact that I can't remember the last capital project that was not done over budget and late.
anon_user
03-09-2007, 03:25 PM
I hope Chicago gets it. Having seen what Sydney was able to do with their Olympic area, plus how the citizens embrace it, it would be a boon for Chicago. The biggest problem would be centralizing some of the arena's. Having seen the process for competing when I was in London & Paris for the 2012 games, I think Chicago has a good chance and would benefit. The sheer volume of improvements that Chicago would get on the beltway, the Kennedy, hell, even on the Mass Transit, would in and of itself make it worthwhile for Chitown
CJSinIL
03-09-2007, 04:16 PM
I would just like to go to the Cubby Bear and see if any athletes would stumble there way into the greatest bar in Chicago across from Wrigley Field.
Annie
03-09-2007, 07:29 PM
I hope Chicago gets it. Having seen what Sydney was able to do with their Olympic area, plus how the citizens embrace it, it would be a boon for Chicago. The biggest problem would be centralizing some of the arena's. Having seen the process for competing when I was in London & Paris for the 2012 games, I think Chicago has a good chance and would benefit. The sheer volume of improvements that Chicago would get on the beltway, the Kennedy, hell, even on the Mass Transit, would in and of itself make it worthwhile for ChitownThat isn't a problem with the high-rise public housing having been torn down, the empty land near Mccormick Place and Northerly Island (formerly Meigs Field) it's all within about a mile or two. That has been one of the biggest things we have over LA.
Annie
03-09-2007, 07:33 PM
I drive to Chicago quite a bit. The tax isn't just for the major companies either from what I have heard. But it is what it is. I have seen a huge improvement as well, but whenever there is construction in Chicago, it never gets finished on time. Thats the only point I was making.Hmmm phase one of the Dan Ryan reconstruction was done 2 weeks ahead of schedule last year!! Not sure what project you are referring to... the new McCormack Place South was ahead by a few weeks...
spare_change
03-09-2007, 07:35 PM
How come the Governor is asking for a state tax increase? I suspect the citizens of Peoria, Champaign, and Cisne (a small town where relatives live) won't gain much from it --when compared to the Chicago area. It would seem a city-centric tax (to include local outlying areas) would be more appropriate.
Just wondering -----
Annie
03-09-2007, 07:40 PM
How come the Governor is asking for a state tax increase? I suspect the citizens of Peoria, Champaign, and Cisne (a small town where relatives live) won't gain much from it --when compared to the Chicago area. It would seem a city-centric tax (to include local outlying areas) would be more appropriate.
Just wondering -----
The tax is to pay for insurance premiums for all uninsured Illinoisans... both children and adults, and to pay for education. We now have an insurance plan in place for all children, but this would cover adults as well.
spare_change
03-09-2007, 07:41 PM
The tax is to pay for insurance premiums for all uninsured Illinoisans... both children and adults, and to pay for education. We now have an insurance plan in place for all children, but this would cover adults as well.
Then, the tax question is moot? The money isn't going to be used for the Olympics development? Sorry -- I got confused.
Annie
04-14-2007, 11:52 AM
Olympic Showdown: USOC to announce decision
By Ben Bradley
April 14, 2007 (WASHINGTON) - Today, Chicago will finally know if the city will be the American candidate city to host the 2016 Summer Olympics. Mayor Richard Daley and his team held a pep rally with school kids in Millennium Park Friday morning before heading to Washington to make the final presentation to the US Olympic Committee. ABC7'S Ben Bradley is live in Washington where both Chicago and Los Angeles will make their last pitch.
Chicago 2016 chairman Pat Ryan says his team is confident -- but not cocky. One expert ABC7 talked with said he believes Chicago has the edge, while others suggest this competition is as close as they come, and it will come down to whether Chicago's team can convince the US Olympic Committee today that they can deliver.
Tucked amongst the world's diplomats along Embassy Row is the building where America's Olympic contender will be crowned.
On Friday, Mayor Richard Daley, Pat Ryan and Chicago's bid team practiced their presentation behind closed doors for more than hour.
"It went well," Mayor Daley said.
They rehearsed in the room where today Saturday they will be on the hot seat. They must convince the 11-member USOC board they can turn their Olympic stadium and village renderings into reality.
"The final presentation is very important and I think it will be decisive," said Bob Ctvrtlik, USOC vice president.
Ctvrtlik led the site evaluation team that visited both Chicago and LA. He will list for the board the pros and cons, risks and rewards, of each city. USOC leaders, which include former baseball commissioner Peter Ueberroth, claim to have not made-up their mind.
"The presentations tomorrow, we'll get to see the city and their final polish, and that will be important for our board as well," said Jim Scherr, US Olympic Committee CEO.
Chicago's team will stick to the basics: selling their plan as a compact Olympic Games that brings athletes and fans into the heart of the bustling downtown and leaves a legacy of economic revitalization on the South Side.
"We're not pulling out rabbits. We believe it's up to us to communicate all about our bid but to really demonstrate that we can win," said Patrick Ryan, Chicago 2016 chairman.
Late Friday, the mayor of Los Angeles told ABC7 he came to DC armed with a new, privately financed financial incentive package to add to a pot of government guarantees.
"We're going to be able to demonstrate that we have been able to indemnify the Olympics in a way that no other city can," said Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, Los Angeles. That means more guarantees than Chicago is offering, Villaraigosa said.
Mayor Daley says he won't be offering anything new in the way of financial guarantees today. He said "this is not about economics, it's about the spirit of the city."
On Friday, about 100 high school students held a send-off for Daley and his committee at Millennium Park.
"We hope they understand in our presentation, that the spirit of Chicago is alive and well," said Mayor Daley. "The 2016 Olympics will give an opportunity for us to really showcase the great, great commitment that America has made."
Craig Barron, who works in a muffler shop across the street from Washington Park on the South Side where the Olympic stadium would be built, is also rooting for Chicago.
"I'd like to see it here. I really would," said Craig Barron, South Side resident
"I think it's a great thing," said South Side resident Rasheedah Hyman-Johnson. "That is, as long as the Olympics does not make it unaffordable for low to moderate and middle-income people living in the neighborhood. So, I think it would be great for the city if it brings jobs, and it doesn't displace people. Then, I'm for it."
Despite the financial risk of a multi-billion dollar project, the Olympics would leave a lasting mark on Chicago, along with tangible benefits like new housing and recreation facilities.
The legacy of the World's Fair in 1893 includes Jackson Park with its beautiful lagoons and bridges, the Museum Of Science And Industry, the Art Institute, and the legend of architect Daniel Burnham who said "make no little plans. They have no magic to stir men's blood."
"The spirit of Chicago is alive and well," said Mayor Daley.
The presenters: Mayor Richard M. Daley Patrick Ryan, Chicago 2016 Chairman and Aon Insurance founder William Daley, former US Commerce Secretary and current Midwest chairman of JP Morgan Chase Valerie Jarrett, former CTA Chairman and current managing director of Habitat Company Linda Mastandrea, Paralympic medalist, attorney and author Michael Conley, Olympian (track and field)
ABC7's Ben Bradley is in Washington, DC for the Olympic announcement. Today, the U.S. Olympic Committee's decision will be streamed live on ABC7Chicago.com.
Our poll here wasn't exactly scientific, however what amazed me is that if you look at our results here and then follow the link below to see ABC7's poll, the results are exactly the same!
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=local&id=5205713&POLL284=20000000000000000
I'm excited....I hope Chicago gets it.
Annie
04-14-2007, 12:12 PM
I'm excited....I hope Chicago gets it.Do you promise to come see me?
Do you promise to come see me?
Would have to leave Hank home :D
Annie
04-14-2007, 12:14 PM
Would have to leave Hank home :D:nu Don't you dare! I'll bring Andrew...
:nu Don't you dare! I'll bring Andrew...
Whew...I feel better....at least I'll have company then. ;)
Annie
04-14-2007, 06:33 PM
I'm excited....I hope Chicago gets it.Me too! Chicago just got it! We're one step closer and I'm thrilled!
Me too! Chicago just got it! We're one step closer and I'm thrilled!
Yeahhhhhh, wait....2016....will I still be breathing? I'll be 59 :cry: Fuck. :D
But then, I might be in really good shape from all my working out, my hair will be back to its normal gray and in a braid down my back.
Ok, I feel better....Chicago 2016 it is :55
Annie
04-14-2007, 06:39 PM
Yeahhhhhh, wait....2016....will I still be breathing? I'll be 59 :cry: Fuck. :D
But then, I might be in really good shape from all my working out, my hair will be back to its normal gray and in a braid down my back.
Ok, I feel better....Chicago 2016 it is :55Maybe we should just hang on to the Chicago thought and visit Lena in 2012?
... then we can talk her into coming to Chicago later!
Maybe we should just hang on to the Chicago thought and visit Lena in 2012?
... then we can talk her into coming to Chicago later!
England...wow. You really going? What a fun thought. :55
Annie
04-14-2007, 06:49 PM
England...wow. You really going? What a fun thought. :55I'd love to! If I can manage to stay employed long enough we should be able to afford it.
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