Barry Bonds's Record

[Frenchie]

O.K. Let's have at it.

IMO,

You cant compare Aaron's record to Bonds just off technology alone, bat's, ball's, conditioning and so on make any comparison impossible.

Plus either way I think AROD will beat him in 5 years anyway

What do you think?

[Phlirt]

Bonds used steroids at least half his career... he doesn't deserve the honor in my opinion.

[Annie]

Bonds used steroids at least half his career... he doesn't deserve the honor in my opinion.Aaron did it on hot dogs and beer.

[Phlirt]

Yes, my vote is for Aaron.

[Penny]

I just hope the truth comes out someday

[Kissie]

I look at it this way...the longer Bonds keeps his mouth shut...the guiltier he is...his record means crap to me...Aaron is still the MAN in my eyes!!!!

[Big O]

I don't care. With all of the steroid stuff going on. How do we know when the next player breaks this record that he wasn't using also?
I don't care about individual records anymore....
I just want to be entertained. I hope he hits 1000

[bryan3636]

Barry F*#&*#@ Bonds.....even beyond the steroid issue, how can you root for someone who is basically a rude, arrogant, childish asshole. Phew...ok, good, got
that off my chest!!!

[Guymisseswife]

I agree Bryan.

[Big O]

Barry F*#&*#@ Bonds.....even beyond the steroid issue, how can you root for someone who is basically a rude, arrogant, childish asshole. Phew...ok, good, got
that off my chest!!!

you must be a Dodger fan!!!!

[bryan3636]

you must be a Dodger fan!!!!

Actually Angels...the only team to have over a 500 record
against the Yankees!

[Big O]

Actually Angels...the only team to have over a 500 record
against the Yankees!

and you have kicked our butt the last two nights also!

[Kissie]

and you have kicked our butt the last two nights also!


Well lets hope that the Red Sox yank there bats out of there asses tonight!!!!

[Jy]

I was disgusted when I read the headline in the sports section this morning. Aaron earned that title honestly and Bonds is a juiced-up parody of him. To think that he's gotten away with it this long is a tragedy and a slap in the face to real ball players.

[scottd]

Just let everyone use steroids and it will be like watching a video game (way more entertaining than it is now) none of this mattered much till that damn book came out.

[Cotties]

But at night he turns green and runs through the streets on a wild rampage....could he really be the Hulk??Just let everyone use steroids and it will be like watching a video game (way more entertaining than it is now) none of this mattered much till that damn book came out.

[OICurready4me]

Bonds is a fraud and the record is a fraud. The game is not nearly what it was when Aaron played. The balls have been juiced at times, the players are juiced many times, ballparks that are designed for home runs, lousy watered down pitching, I could go on and on.

[GaMan]

The truth is there...All of the accusations and first hand accounts in other professional players autobiographies gives it away. The guy used performance enhacing supplements. His records no matter how high will always be tainted.

Even the most unmarketed, unpublicized and unpopular athletic competition there is, distinguishes between those who take steriods and those who don't. Bodybuilding. They distinguish between drug free pro bodybuilders and others. Because they understand there are huge differences and advantages between the competitors.

[PlayfulMale69]

O.K. Let's have at it.

IMO,

You cant compare Aaron's record to Bonds just off technology alone, bat's, ball's, conditioning and so on make any comparison impossible.

Plus either way I think AROD will beat him in 5 years anyway

What do you think?

There are so many things that are different now. The bats, balls, number of games, legal and illegal performance enhancers, money. I have a hard time getting excited about bonds, ARod, or many others.

I have been to a fair amount of Rangers games here in Texas and I am a fan of the people like Michael Young or Texiara that play with heart and give 100% everytime out. I am tired of those that think they don't have to try because they are some superstar.

:spbx:

[CuriousGeorge]

I probably should be impressed with Bonds' record, but like most people, I just find it hard to get excited about it because of all the controversy surrounding it.

I was much more impressed with Cal Ripkin breaking the record for most consecutive games played a few years ago. How many was it? Over 2600, I think?

[PlayfulMale69]

I probably should be impressed with Bonds' record, but like most people, I just find it hard to get excited about it because of all the controversy surrounding it.

I was much more impressed with Cal Ripkin breaking the record for most consecutive games played a few years ago. How many was it? Over 2600, I think?

Hi Curious George!!! Long time!!! I so agree with you. I thought Cal Ripkin deserved all the attention. Bonds wants the praise but doesn't want to be bothered with a fan or a reporter asking a question. What is up with that? I am tired of the attitude that the people who pay their wages are not to be tolerated.

Hope you are doing well!

[CuriousGeorge]

Hi Curious George!!! Long time!!! I so agree with you. I thought Cal Ripkin deserved all the attention. Bonds wants the praise but doesn't want to be bothered with a fan or a reporter asking a question. What is up with that? I am tired of the attitude that the people who pay their wages are not to be tolerated.

Hope you are doing well!

I'm great! Thanks for asking. Just haven't been very active on the site for a while.

I know what you mean about the attitude that some ballplayers have. I lost interest in baseball several years ago when they kept striking over all those salary issues. I have only recently been drawn back in.

[PlayfulMale69]

I'm great! Thanks for asking. Just haven't been very active on the site for a while.

I know what you mean about the attitude that some ballplayers have. I lost interest in baseball several years ago when they kept striking over all those salary issues. I have only recently been drawn back in.

Yeah, I wouldn't go to the ballpark in a few years after that strike. I have enjoyed taking my kids and wife to the ballpark over the years. It would be have been nice if the Rangers were winning, but a day at the ballpark is hard to beat win or loose. It still is my favorite game. Actually I have enjoyed going to the minor league games here in North Dallas more than the majors. They put on a good show here and it is usually a good game. Price is better too.

[ldon]

I imagine in the old days, nobody used steroids. Today, who knows? It still takes away from the fact that he broke Hank's record.

[Frenchie]

Good stuff lot's of constructive answers!

See I dont really care for records "personnaly" to be honest. I mean in today's day and age half those guys are probably on the sauce. My biggest concern is that either way like OIC said I think it so difficult to say who did what and when that its a toss up either.

Remember that you dont need to turn into the incredible hulk to be on steroids, I would say most athletes on steroids you wouldnt even tell there on it. Problem with Bonds is that there's no way he didnt do em and I think thats the biggest insult to people.

Good for him for doing it but at the end of the day it's too bad that no matter what there's always going to be a shadow above that one.

Interesting!!!

[OICurready4me]

If anyone has read the book "Game of Shadows", you will know why it is a known fact that Bonds, once he began this performance enhancing drug journey, he had the money to keep himself out in front of the testing. He had his blood tested constantly to ensure he would go undetected, if tested. If it started to show too much of something, the scientists (at Balco) would change the structure a little bit so it would stay undetected. Plus, Baseball currently doesn't test for HGH, human growth hormone, so he's golden since that is what he is on now anyway. The whole "he's never tested positive for steroids" argument is a crock of shit because of how he operates.

[PlayfulMale69]

I agree that the records are difficult to use as a comparison over the long haul. There are so many things that contribute to the stats of a player and some of them are due to the team they are on. Look at Emmitt Smith of the Cowboys and Barry Sanders of the Detroit Lions. Emmitt got a lot of his stats based on the front lines. Now, put the 2 of them on the same team with the same protection and who would really have been better.

Don't get me wrong, Emmitt was a class guy and I look up to him for his accomplishments. I just think that we use a stat like how many home runs a person hits and don't look at the total situation because it is difficult.

[papabear48]

Big time asterisk next to Bond's record. He is just like his dad was, arrogant

[duanehofner]

Bonds used steroids at least half his career... he doesn't deserve the honor in my opinion.

I use steroids. Wifes not complaining! Bonds still passed Aaron, period.

[papabear48]

he passed him , true, not a level playing field tho

[thickitalian]

Barring injury and anything that gets dug up on him in the future... ARod will be the new Home Run King. A person who does not strongly profess their innocence in a matter so important and so public, is guilty in my eyes....Barry gets an asterick in my record book.

[damanjay]

Got to give him a little credit though. There isn't a drug out there that is making the man have the eye to see the pitch coming so clearly and the control that he has with the bat. Look at Jose Conseco. Used the crap and never got any better. More over Yankee Nation is still praising Giambi.

[Frenchie]

Got to give him a little credit though. There isn't a drug out there that is making the man have the eye to see the pitch coming so clearly and the control that he has with the bat. Look at Jose Conseco. Used the crap and never got any better. More over Yankee Nation is still praising Giambi.

Good points here

like I said before, IMO steroids for bond are as effective as Weed "deemed a performance inancing drug lol" to Ross Regliaty "Canadian Snowboard champ".

This was a bit of my initial post. Sure hell gain a few feet from muscle but he still needs to see the ball and hit it. Muscle mass will do nothing for him but slow him down. Pitchers today vs Pitchers back then?

So I dont know, it's a tuff call, I think unless they actually hammer down on everyone and I mean hard, his record kinda as to stay on IMO.

If they can never prove he's done it then we have to accept it

I do on the other hand believe like my italian friend that A-Rod will pass both those guys. He's got another solid year on his belt and allot more to go

Still an interesting one here

[damanjay]

Dafrenchguy is completely correct about A-Rod as long as he doesn't get injured. Also look out for what Ryan Howard does for the next couple of years.