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spare_change
08-28-2007, 02:23 AM
By Rich Maloof
Special to MSNBC.com
Updated: 7:44 a.m. MT Aug 27, 2007

Parents are looking into the eyes of their teenage children and seeing their own past staring back.

Now, a generation of parents who cleaned their weed on “The White Album” are trying to figure out how to keep their kids from smoking pot and finding their efforts as useless as a double album in a world of iPods.

The big question for today’s ex-stoners: Should I tell my kid that I’ve gotten high?

Some parents seem to have forgotten one of the first lessons we ever teach our children: Tell the truth, even when it’s difficult to say or hear. But when it comes to that dreaded conversation, moms and dads are wincing at their past, even if they giggled through it at the time.

“I keep saying to my son, who is going into the music business, ‘Look, you’re going to be confronted with this stuff any day now,’” says Richard, whose son recently turned 18. “‘The day I find out that you’ve tried it, your life shuts down.’”

Richard, who asked that his last name not be published, lives in upstate New York, not far from where he attended Woodstock as a 19-year-old. And though he was sober then, he tried dope later and feels it eventually led him down some dark paths. He absolutely forbids smoking pot, and neither of his two children knows he smoked. If they ever do sniff out the truth — and use it against him — Richard says he would “stress all the deleterious effects” he has seen and experienced.

Experts such as Mitch Earleywine, associate professor of psychology at State University of New York at Albany and author of the upcoming “The Parents’ Guide to Marijuana,” agrees with Richard’s thinking, but would reproach him for his delivery.

“Soft emotions like sadness and disappointment are the thing to share with kids under these circumstances, as opposed to harder, negative emotions like anger,” says Earleywine. Citing a brain study led by psychologist Peter Fried (what are the chances!), he continues, “Then the rational argument follows and includes information about new data that show early use alters brain development, decreases IQ scores and increases the risk for dependence.”

Earleywine, who is on the advisory board of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws, suggests a parental response along these lines: We didn’t understand marijuana very well back then. It makes me sad that you might harm your brain or not be as smart. I’d like you to have all the advantages you can.

Frenchie
08-28-2007, 01:48 PM
I always said information is the best tool, ignorance will only get you hurt, especially with this topic

Count me in for a being honest. My parents where with me and I had more then my fare chance to do it but rarely did so it can work.

Yes i know that means I'm not the super cool stoner that you all tought I was but I did save 22 kitties from a burning building last night so that means I'm still a super hero.

Authograph line starts there -->

twoblues
08-28-2007, 02:04 PM
I agree with DaFrEnChGuY, just be honest with them. Kids are going to experiment, that's all part of growing up. I drank and smoke pot when I was in high school and college (then again, this is BC ;) ).

Education is key. I knew that pot was relatively harmless. I also never even thought about harder drugs or even cigarettes. As long as your kid knows how to weigh the pros and cons and can make an educated choice, I wouldn't worry about it. Of course, if he/she makes a mistake, you still need to be there to support them because kids are bound to make mistakes.

I only smoked pot socially. Never really did much for me. It was just a stage in my life. Of course, I still drink, just not as excessively ;)

p.J
08-28-2007, 02:52 PM
Babies could be vaccinated with brain-altering chemicals to stop them getting hooked on drugs and cigarettes in later life, it is reported today.

Newborns would have jabs which could prevent addiction to cocaine, heroin or tobacco, under secret Downing Street plans.

Details of the extraordinary proposal to stop the annual £20 billion cost of drug misuse are in a leaked No 10 policy document.

Scientists have already developed a drug called naltrexone that eases heroin withdrawal symptoms.

A cocaine vaccine called TA-CD has now been developed, the document says. Ministers could also crack down on drug dens by having the post scanned for supplies using modern technology, while police helicopters would use revolutionary laser radar systems to test the air for chemicals used to make drugs.

The document, reportedly being considered by Tony Blair's working group on crime, talks of "immunotherapies" developed in secret to protect a generation.

It says: "A young person could be immunised and the drugs would never reach or affect the brain. Drug-related crimes could be reduced if vaccines can be successfully developed to reduce the craving."

Heath ministers and the General Medical Council have already objected. Figures last year from the European Monitoring Centre on Drugs and Drugs Addiction revealed Britain is in the top three EU nations for the number of cocaine users.

Statistics also show nine per cent of 11- to 15-year-olds smoke.




I smell irony! and a load of horse poo! (or was it that spliff!) So drugs to stop drug abuse... mmmmm! :sc

spare_change
08-28-2007, 02:57 PM
I smell irony! and a load of horse poo! (or was it that spliff!) So drugs to stop drug abuse... mmmmm! :sc

Where did you get the quote? Sounds like something National Lampoon would put out.

p.J
08-28-2007, 03:06 PM
Where did you get the quote? Sounds like something National Lampoon would put out.

Hold on let me find it...

p.J
08-28-2007, 03:10 PM
Evening Standard on line... (best London paper)


http://chat.thisislondon.co.uk/london/threadnonInd.jsp?forum=18&thread=239497&message=837821

IMaLady
08-28-2007, 03:14 PM
I plan to tell me children my one and only experiance with pot. It did nothing for me and I never did it again. My husband, on the other hand, got pretty into drugs as a teen. He also will tell our kids his experiance with them.

Telling them what we learned with our misktakes just might keep them from making the same mistakes. I want my children to know every thing there is to know about these things so they will have the tools to make the right choice for themselves. I would never approve of them doing drungs or drink at a young age but will suport them no matter what.

spare_change
08-28-2007, 03:31 PM
Evening Standard on line... (best London paper)


http://chat.thisislondon.co.uk/london/threadnonInd.jsp?forum=18&thread=239497&message=837821



Thank you, ma'am! You are most kind, courteous, and considerate ...







..... and got a killer ass !

mrdiscreet
09-12-2007, 08:11 PM
We are generally very open with our kids, but I make an exception here. Regardless of the cautions that come with discussing it, I do think the lingering message left with our kids would be: mom and dad did it, and they turned out ok, so I can do it too.

Hypocritical, yes. I prefer to view it as a need-to-know piece of informatioon, and my kids don't need to know.

cherokeered
09-12-2007, 08:20 PM
I can't even comment on this...I have no kids and never smoked anything...but honesty is always best when dealing with your kids...they really aren't children and they know more than you think...

Preaching and demanding will never work...kids like to go against the adult world...but talking with respect and listening with it...well, that might work

mrdiscreet
09-12-2007, 11:02 PM
I am quite comfortable with how we are raising our kids; they'd be pretty omniscient if they knew what I did 25 years ago.

deercrow
09-13-2007, 11:34 PM
I am and have been very truthful to my children..yes I smoked pot when I was yonger and tried other drugs as well..but they did nothing for me and the pentaly now is to high of a risk and will haunt you the rest of your days...ask them is they want that or take them to kids who do serminars about this and let them hear it from other kids...they ususlly listen to other kids before they do adults...

mrdiscreet
09-13-2007, 11:46 PM
Not sure how well this is known, but kids with pot convictions (even misdemeanors) are barred from federal college loans.

I don't agree with that, but those are the cold hard facts these days.

Lacey
09-28-2007, 06:41 PM
The big question for today’s ex-stoners: Should I tell my kid that I’ve gotten high?



No!!!
I think that gives them the excuse,You did it .....What's the big deal?

Wether I did something or not isn't important ,I don't want my kids to do it!

inmy4x
09-28-2007, 06:52 PM
My mom was upfront with me, I think you should tell your kids about life experience you have

mrdiscreet
09-29-2007, 01:49 PM
My mom was upfront with me, I think you should tell your kids about life experience you have

So you would share with them that you come to this site?