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spare_change
11-20-2007, 03:33 PM
Note: I've worked with Fran several times, and she is pure Hell on Wheels -- but I can think of nobody i would rather have on my side in a fight. She is truly an American hero -

Why Fran Townsend Resigned

By Ronald Kessler

Fran Townsend, whose resignation as White House counterterrorism chief was announced today, has been the glue that has kept the intelligence community working cohesively.

According to the mythology in the media, the members of the intelligence community are not on speaking terms. The FBI and CIA, in particular, are said not to talk to each other. But at least once a day, Townsend participates in a secure video conference with all 16 members of the intelligence community, including the FBI and CIA.

Based at the National Counterterrorism Center in McLean, Va., the conference dissects the latest threats. Intelligence officials discuss which threats are most ominous and parcel out leads to each agency. Meanwhile, some 200 analysts from the CIA and FBI sit side-by-side 24 hours a day at the NCTC analyzing threats.

The 5-foot-tall former organized crime prosecutor became assistant to the president for homeland security and counterterrorism in May 204. She meets with President Bush every morning. Despite having small children, she has often been seen working on Christmas Day. Townsend is known to utter expletives when she encounters foot dragging and will cut people off in mid-sentence if she thinks they are not giving her the straight scoop.

At the same time, says an FBI counterterrorism official, “She understands our business and is completely supportive of the intelligence community.”

The daughter of a Greek-American father who was a roofer and an Irish-American mother who was an office manager for a construction company, Townsend was raised in Wantagh, Long Island.

At age 11, Townsend wrote letters to her priest, bishop, cardinal, and finally the Vatican asking to be an altar boy. Turned down, she tried to sneak into Mass in a borrowed robe, before her priest caught her.

Townsend was the first in her family to finish high school. Because money was tight, she took an accelerated course load in college and worked as a waitress. She graduated cum laude from American University in 1982 and received a law degree from the University of San Diego School of Law in 1984.

A frightening incident at her college dorm room, where she was physically threatened by a man who was let off with little more than a warning, led to her interest in becoming a prosecutor.

After law school, she prosecuted Gambino crime-family members for the U.S. attorney’s office in New York City under Rudolph Giuliani. She went on to take a high-level position at the Justice Department.

As someone who was involved in the U.S. attorney’s office in Manhattan and at the Justice Department in the investigation of the East Africa embassy bombings, the USS Cole, and the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center, Townsend says she has seen changes that have been remarkable.

“The most important thing has been an overall strengthening of the intelligence community,” Townsend has said. “It’s intelligence reform, it’s greater resources in human intelligence, it’s the transformation of the FBI, it’s the Patriot Act, and the technical tools like the NSA terrorism surveillance program and the financial program. The sum of these changes is greater than the parts.”

Now, the U.S. is on the offense.

“It’s so much more effective than waiting until something blows up and then coming in afterwards to try and piece together, from what you find, what happened historically,” she says. “Almost every single one of our major disruptions has resulted from some understanding or lead information, intelligence that we got from somebody inside the organization. It’s really classic, going back, getting somebody who can basically explain to you what’s going on behind enemy lines. And in that regard, this war isn’t different from sort of traditional wars. It’s a different kind of fight but in that regard, that concept of getting into the enemy’s mind and understanding their objectives is the same.”

The sweeping changes in the intelligence community have paid off. Since 9/11, some 5,000 terrorists have been rolled up by the FBI and CIA. That is a major reason we have not been attacked in more than six years.

What has most frustrated Townsend is stories in the media disclosing operational secrets that are not abuses.

“It never fails, when we see an unauthorized disclosure, that we suffer from it,” Townsend says. “You know people often say the terrorists assume we’re tracking them. But it’s different when you have government sources coming out and either confirming it, or you have the details of it, and how we do it, published. We find that after these disclosures, the enemy shifts their tactics around based on what they learn we are doing.”

Calling the leaks “devastating,” Townsend says, “It’s not just a question of you’re putting individuals at risk. The real risk is to the lives of Americans who may suffer an attack because we couldn’t stop it, because the source was taken out. When a technical program is compromised, literally hundreds of millions of dollars are lost because a technique that’s been invested in over many years is no longer productive.”

The disclosures impair the morale of FBI and CIA personnel who are trying to protect the country from another attack.

“My responsibility is to help the president make good decisions to protect the American people,” Townsend says. “The leaks make my job that much harder, and they make me not only frustrated but angry, because leaking classified material when no abuse is involved puts us all at risk.”

tt
11-20-2007, 06:20 PM
Another rat leaving a sinking ship. She told the lies she was suppose to tell. But who told her to tell the lies?

p.a
11-20-2007, 06:48 PM
[QUOTE=spare_change]Note: I've worked with Fran several times, and she is pure Hell on Wheels -- but I can think of nobody i would rather have on my side in a fight. She is truly an American hero -

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Really! In what capacity?

mrdiscreet
11-21-2007, 08:59 AM
She is referring to the leaking of Valerie Plame's name I am sure. Or the Bush admin rolling up the carpet on Brit and Pakistani Al Qaeda operations during the election. Oh wait, those were "authorized disclosures." Never mind.

tt
11-25-2007, 05:59 PM
[QUOTE=spare_change]Note: I've worked with Fran several times, and she is pure Hell on Wheels -- but I can think of nobody i would rather have on my side in a fight. She is truly an American hero -

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Really! In what capacity?

Wow, he never got back to say in what capacity.

MCat
11-25-2007, 06:04 PM
[QUOTE=peteraskme]

Wow, he never got back to say in what capacity.

He'll be back fellas.....don't fret....he's not one to leave something alone as you well know....

spare_change
11-25-2007, 06:27 PM
[QUOTE=peteraskme]

Wow, he never got back to say in what capacity.

Actually, he did -- ask Peter.

But, if it's important ---

In my past life, both military and post-military, I worked in the intelligence arena. One of my past jobs was presenting intelligence estimates during the Clinton administration. So, i got to work with both of them up close -- thus, my intense dislike for Hillary (but that is another story). That was when I first met Fran.

Fran has been in the intelligence arena for a long time. She and I have locked horns over issues several times, but there is no one for whom I have a greater respect. She is tough, tenacious, swears like a sailor, but is eminently fair, logical, and intelligent. She's damn good -- and I admire her for it. She is full of piss and vinegar, and is as fine a patriot as I've ever met.

I didn't know you cared.

Iwantutowantme
11-25-2007, 11:17 PM
Another rat leaving a sinking ship. She told the lies she was suppose to tell. But who told her to tell the lies?

I second that motion...

mrdiscreet
11-27-2007, 11:14 PM
Hero?

I thought the name rang a bell. Here are her acts of "heroism":

Stepping up as a shill for Bush claiming the Homeland security threat levels weren't manipulated as political scare tactics leading up to the 2004 election. Of course, she was lying, as Tom Ridge later admitted he acted on Karl Rove's instructions. There is an interesting chart on tracking the threat level alerts tied to Bush polling dips, which I'll try to locate.

Essentially being barred from appearing before the FISA (i.e., secret wiretapping of American citizens) court because the judges assessed here credibility at zero.

Let's take back our country from these "heroes".

mrdiscreet
11-27-2007, 11:23 PM
Ridge reveals clashes on alerts
By Mimi Hall, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — The Bush administration periodically put the USA on high alert for terrorist attacks even though then-Homeland Security chief Tom Ridge argued there was only flimsy evidence to justify raising the threat level, Ridge now says.

Ridge, who resigned Feb. 1, said Tuesday that he often disagreed with administration officials who wanted to elevate the threat level to orange, or "high" risk of terrorist attack, but was overruled.

His comments at a Washington forum describe spirited debates over terrorist intelligence and provide rare insight into the inner workings of the nation's homeland security apparatus.

Ridge said he wanted to "debunk the myth" that his agency was responsible for repeatedly raising the alert under a color-coded system he unveiled in 2002.

Added: When Tom Ridge wouldn't support the lie, Fran Townsend stepped up

(US News & World Report)

It sure felt like a heart-stopping moment. On August 1, Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge raised the color-coded threat alert level because of new intelligence pointing toward an al Qaeda plot to attack major financial institutions. But when word leaked out that the intelligence was old, raising skepticism about the supposed threat, the White House benched Ridge [Note the real reason Ridge stood down cited above] and dispatched a very different kind of messenger [i.e., a shill] to try to shore up the administration's shaken credibility. Petite, blond, expensively dressed, and telegenic to boot, Frances Fragos Townsend is a far cry from the rumpled suits and ramrod-straight law enforcement types who typically work the Washington terrorism beat.

mrdiscreet
11-27-2007, 11:31 PM
Hero?

Fran Townsend, deputy national security adviser for combating terrorism, visits Abu Ghraib for approximately two hours. She is given a tour of the prison by Army Lt. Col. Steven Jordan. Townsend will later say that the purpose of her visit was to learn more about resistance against the US occupation and to ensure that information coming from the facility would be shared effectively among the various intelligence agencies. She will also say that she did not discuss interrogation methods, pressure military prison personnel to produce more intelligence, or witness any incidents of abuse.

Note: Jordan was the highest ranking soldier prosecuted, and the only officer (but only reserve, so he was expendable); he magically got most charges dismissed when General Fay suddenly remembered (despite prior sworn testimony) that he had "forgot" to advise Jordan of his right not to incriminate himself. Thus, in classic Pentagon CYA, our military leadership cleared themselves but threw enlisted soldiers under the bus.

It doesn't appear to match Frances' "Hell on wheels" personality and strong support for "enhanced interrogation" that she would not have pressed Jordan on interrogation methods at a time the Bush admin was intensely pushing the issue.

In her own words:

"White House homeland security adviser Frances Fragos Townsend also dismissed objections to the CIA program yesterday, saying during an appearance on CNN that al-Qaeda members are trained to resist harsh interrogations. She said that "we start with the least harsh measures first" and stop the progression [i.e., waterboarding, renditions to Egypt and other black sites for torture] "if someone becomes cooperative."

spare_change
11-27-2007, 11:34 PM
Quit baiting. It won't work --

mrdiscreet
11-28-2007, 01:49 AM
From US News & World Report:

Townsend says she repeatedly tried to persuade the judge to lower the "wall" but knew she had crossed the line when in November 2000, the FISA court held a rare meeting of the full court to discuss "wall" -related issues. "The chief judge was so annoyed with me," says Townsend, "that he wouldn't permit me personally to attend, because I had pushed so hard against the restrictions they had imposed." Others say the real root of Lamberth's anger at Townsend was the false information given by the FBI in dozens of wiretap applications to the FISA court. Lamberth declined to comment. But he told Reno's successor, Ashcroft, that he had lost faith in Townsend. Knowing she was in an untenable situation, Townsend says, she told Ashcroft's then acting deputy, Robert Mueller, that she was willing to step aside. Townsend says Mueller consulted with Ashcroft and told her that she was out. Mueller, who is now the FBI director, declined to be interviewed but said in a statement that Townsend had "voluntarily moved" during the Bush transition.

For a judge to bar a lawyer from his courtroom is the ultimate disgrace for a legal professional.

mrdiscreet
11-28-2007, 02:31 AM
Baiting? That's Fran's specialty. Not quite as strong as Bush's classic "bring it on" but not bad for an intelligence amateur:

White House Homeland Security Adviser Fran Townsend was roundly chided for her dismissal of Osama bin Laden this past Sunday after she said he was "virtually impotent," a remark that Thomas Sanderson, an authority on terrorism at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, called a "provocation" and "not helpful."

Townsend appeared on FOX News Sunday and CNN's Morning Edition 9/9/07 and said

"We know that Al Qaeda is still determined to attack, and we take it seriously. But this tape appears to be nothing more than threats. It's propaganda on their part." [...] "This is about the best he can do. This is a man on a run, from a cave, who's virtually impotent other than these tapes."

But as the AP reported,

"The consensus of the nation's top intelligence analysts is that bin Laden's terrorist network is anything but impotent.

Terrorism experts say the network is regrouping in the lawless Pakistan-Afghanistan border region. The latest National Intelligence Estimate says al-Qaida is growing in strength, intensifying its efforts to put operatives in the United States and plotting against U.S. targets that will cause massive casualties. The U.S. is in a "heightened threat environment" and al-Qaida is the most serious threat, the analysts found."

It has also been reported that Director of National Intelligence Michael McConnell said Monday before the Senate Committee on Homeland Security "that a comprehensive U.S. intelligence assessment issued in July warned that the gravest terrorist threat to the United States for the next three years is bin Laden and the plots to attack American targets that he and his lieutenants are hatching in their sanctuary in Pakistan ."

mrdiscreet
11-28-2007, 10:32 AM
I've been wondering about the timing of her resignation ... it happened very suddenly, with a quickly penned note on the spot, and shortly after Mukasey became Attorney General.

Looks like Mukasey did some housecleaning booting the dead-enders from the torture/war-crimes crowd. Why would he want to keep a disgraced attorney around to discredit his reputation?

mrdiscreet
11-28-2007, 11:05 AM
Quit baiting. It won't work --

Citing published articles is baiting? Just completing the Fran Townsend portrait as you invited by starting this thread.

If there is a problem, go to a mod; that's the proper protocol.