Who pissed off Mother Nature?

[surfnchat]

It seems like this Autumn has been brutally hot. Down here in Dallas, we were in the upper 80s through Wednesday. We finally got a cool front and dropped into the low to mid-70s. I was able to turn off the A/C and open the windows! But it looks to get back into the low 80s by tomorrow. What's up with Mother Nature?

Is everyone else getting an unusually hot Autumn where they are?

[Sandy]

in the south we are. alabama here, as to who pissed mother nature off? we did. all the illegal dumping in the ocean and on land, god only knows where else. tear in the ozone. what do you expect? its only going to get worse my friend.

[Annie]

It's been really hot in Chicago too. I can't believe I sent my kid to school in shorts in November! That's got to be a first!

[surfnchat]

Yep, we did make her plenty mad, especially with the hurricanes too.

BTW, I love Alabama! I get to Gulf Shores every summer. Best beaches on the Gulf Coast from that point on to Destin!

[surfnchat]

It's been really hot in Chicago too. I can't believe I sent my kid to school in shorts in November! That's got to be a first!

Wow! I thought Chicago was spared some of this heat.

[Norfolkdave]

We here in the uk are having unusually mild weather for thois time of the year, the grass is still growing, and my hanging fushias are still in flower and my annuals still sending out the smell closely followed by carnations and pinks.

[Penny]

Its as cold as a witches tit here :(

[Norfolkdave]

Its as cold as a witches tit here :(

While everyone seems to be enamored with the "thermodynamics of thaumaturgic mammaries" I must say many are not abreast of true origin of this term. It is clearly early 20th Century and emanates from the Mid-Western United States. The term was, in original form ,"Cold as Witches' Tit" which is a town up in the mountains of ( I believe, Montana).:lmao

[Annie]

Wow! I thought Chicago was spared some of this heat.

This year we've had quite a few days in the 70's. Today it's low 60's, one of the coolest days in a few weeks I think.

[Wet Beaver]

Its as cold as a witches tit here :(

they are not that cold...

http://www.gettingit.com/article/663 :gs

[surfnchat]

Its as cold as a witches tit here :(

I saw your pic in the witch outfit... I thought your tits were hot! :D

[surfnchat]

they are not that cold...

http://www.gettingit.com/article/663 :gs

:lmao great site! Thanks!

[MCat]

How about cold as a well diggers ass...

[Sandy]

lol as usual liked the site w.b. an yes surf those beachs were a beauty. but after these storms idk. anymore. and to tell you the truth we don't go to the beach anymore. has anybody else noticed that sharks are moving in closer to land? and the attacks are alot more. i believe its because there hungry because of everything thats been dumped in the ocean. so now their hunting us. 1 more question does anybody else whats at the bottom of the ocean? knowing we can't go to the bottom? i love seafood, but i'm even scared to eat that now. :cry:

[surfnchat]

Hey Mywife. I was in Gulf Shores this summer and they still have a lot of cleanup left to do from Ivan and Dennis. They didn't get hit too hard from Katrina, but it will still take years to get back to normal. Most of the beaches were still closed off. :(

I am glad I didn't see any sharks though.

As for the pollution, I've sworn off shellfish from the Gulf because of it. I won't take any chances. I only eat shellfish from the Atlantic and it has to be fully cooked. Geez, I do miss raw oysters. ;)

I hope things get better and Mother Nature decides to not be so pissed off with us. :nu

[joe48]

I'm looking forward to English Chardonnay in my Region. the chalk hills around here are ideal and if the climate keeps on getting warmer watch out california we'll be in the wine business.

[Sandy]

i know it take years to get back to what it was, i just wonder though if it ever will?
:(

[surfnchat]

Yes!!!! We finally got a decent cold front here!!! I think we are done with the 80s for a while. It should be in the 60s-70s for the rest of the week/month.

Still, I read in the paper today we were about 7 degrees above average for the month of September and about 4 degrees above average for October. That's pretty damn hot considering you count all of the days in the month and compare it to the historical record. I'm just glad it appears to be over for now. I can turn off the A/C and get the heater ready.

[bonzzz4292]

mother nature is getting back at us for all the wrong things we have done to her

[SirFox]

I have not seen it this cold in 20 years here. I mean it is about -3 or about 28°F and it is only 21 November. The farmers are saying it will be extremely cold. You should see the fog each night roll in from the Atlantic.

[Sandy]

i think its going to get alot worse. :(

[Norfolkdave]

I haev not seen it this cold in 20 years here. I mean it is about -3 or about 28°F and it is only 21 November. The farmers are saying it will be extremely cold. You should see the fog each night roll in from the Atlantic.

The mist rolls in here quite frequently, we are only 4 miles my road from the sea, 1 mile as the crow flies, and we have been getting sharp frosts, however normally our snows dont come until Feb/ March, but this year the forcasters say we are in for the severist winter similar to 1963, even today is cold, so its on with the thermols and plenty of bed action to keep warm at night.;)

[roughneck]

Its been hot here in Louisiana to then it turns cold and back to hot sure wish mother nature would take a break.:wa:

[Cotties]

It's been about 77 here..very cold.. no bullshit.{normally about 103}. I have been wearing gloves here in the morning for about 2 weeks...

as for the ozone thing... Hell I stopped worrying about that 10 years ago when the American government said it was the rest of the world complaining about something that didn't affect them......

P.S....It was your satellites that brought it to world attention...so forgive me for complaining...a big thank you...

[Penny]

I'd love 77 Hell if it was 77 here tomorrow I will walk around naked ;)

[Norfolkdave]

I'd love 77 Hell if it was 77 here tomorrow I will walk around naked ;)

its 77:lmao

[Cotties]

You are one naughty little girl Penny... Aren't you afraid someone might pinch your nipples or smack your bum.I'd love 77 Hell if it was 77 here tomorrow I will walk around naked ;)

[Penny]

thats the risk I would take :gs

[Norfolkdave]

thats the risk I would take :gs

Take the risk and post some alluring photos for proof....LOL;)

[romancer522000]

thats the risk I would take :gs

I think this thread may end up like a truth and dare !!!!! I like daves thoughts alot Penny . Go Dave !!!

[jasonmnusa]

it's 8 outside right now. VERRRY nipply outside.

[surfnchat]

I'd love 77 Hell if it was 77 here tomorrow I will walk around naked ;)

It will be 77 here in Dallas tomorrow... :D

[Norfolkdave]

it's 8 outside right now. VERRRY nipply outside.

Just for you




2 nipple rings walk into a bar and ask for a beer
The barman says "I cant serve you"
The nipple rings say "Why not".
The barman says "Well look at ya, you're off your tits":lmao

[SirFox]

I read the news now and I see a 6.4 Earthquake in Northern Japan amd a NEW hurriciane which will probably not make landfall Stateside.
Earthquake last month in Iran.

Bloody Hell....Hurricianes in December and so many Earthquakes?

[surfnchat]

Yep, it's been a messed up year all over. Now they are saying it's going to be 82 here tomorrow in Dallas! We seem to have missed August here. :(

It also seems like the folks up north are getting a double winter. Can you send some our way to cancel out the extra summer we are getting? :wa:

[firefly]

I think the weather everywhere is screwed up. It's in the high 70's here today, but so windy that there are small dogs sailing by.

[SirFox]

I think the weather everywhere is screwed up. It's in the high 70's here today, but so windy that there are small dogs sailing by.

FIREFLY, as I see it, there are two ways to take advanatge of the weather at the moment...go naked when it is so warm and hot, and / or, slide under the sheets and make delicious love....and cuddle up. :lf

[Wet Beaver]

I read the news now and I see a 6.4 Earthquake in Northern Japan amd a NEW hurriciane which will probably not make landfall Stateside.
Earthquake last month in Iran.

Bloody Hell....Hurricianes in December and so many Earthquakes?

weather has notting to do with quakes..... and it seems like the number of them are going down...

http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/eqlists/eqstats.html

[surfnchat]

Wondering... Is Mother Nature is still involved in Earthquakes?

[surfnchat]

weather has notting to do with quakes..... and it seems like the number of them are going down...

Just like my sex life! :lmao

[surfnchat]

It was 88 for the high yesterday and suppossed to get to a low of 29 tonight. Yikes! Mother nature is really pissed off!

[Annie]

It was 88 for the high yesterday and suppossed to get to a low of 29 tonight. Yikes! Mother nature is really pissed off!

Naw, she ain't pissed off at you! She gave us a record low of 5 F this morning! Wow and to think it's not even winter yet!

[Waltert]

Well we got a foot of snow over the weekend, she is getting evey one!

[Norfolkdave]

We are lucky, shes been good to us, its sort of mild today and blue skies with wisps of greyish cloud, but no snow thankfully.

[SirFox]

Must drive up to Belgium between Christmas and New Year's. Have not needed snow tires here since I arrived. While looking at Belgian Weather forecast, they forecast ice and snow.....8 inches snow of snow last January.

One can't drive on highways with chains for hundreds of miles.

[Cotties]

We should have called this page the weather channel..

Still cool here.. up to 84 .. Penny you would be rubbing ice all over your naked body in public with this sort of weather... mmmm Penny and Ice

[spare_change]

I think the weather everywhere is screwed up. It's in the high 70's here today, but so windy that there are small dogs sailing by.


Call me when a big dog goes by -- i'm looking for a golden lab.

[Shiane]

Call me when a big dog goes by -- i'm looking for a golden lab.

The golden lab is in my back yard with his pecker froze to my Cyprus Tree, as soon as I get the pink part thawed, I'll send him on up your way. ;)

[MCat]

Must drive up to Belgium between Christmas and New Year's.

What a beautiful drive it must be...I can just imagine

[SirFox]

What a beautiful drive it must be...I can just imagine

MARYCAT:
One leaves the BORDEAUX region and the Atlantic area and heads into the Continent towards Paris passing through the Chateaux de la Loire country..you see some of the names of the castles.... like Blois, Chenonceaux, Azay le Rideau, Tours, Angers, etc.

From Chartres to 30 km to Paris it is really quite boring...except for all the castles around southwestern Paris like Versailles.

On Xmas, think I will drive through to Paris and on to the Champs Elysées. I will head out northeast towards Reims and up to Ardennes "Mountains" where so many Allied troops fell for just good causes in 1945.

The Swiss have a saying about France: "it is a beautiful country but poorly and badly inhabited.

[Sandy]

i don't know. all i know is sunday it was in the 70s, yesterday started ogg about 65, afternoon rain came in and it started cooling down, low last nite 31, and today its cold. somebody really made her mad.

[SDS351]

Mad, I think pissed off is more like it, Up in western Canada it was a low of -25C or -13F and got all the way up to -20C or -5F. Damn Cold. The body isnt used to it yet....

[Penny]

:lmao LMAO



The golden lab is in my back yard with his pecker froze to my Cyprus Tree, as soon as I get the pink part thawed, I'll send him on up your way. ;)

[tiger50]

in the south we are. alabama here, as to who pissed mother nature off? we did. all the illegal dumping in the ocean and on land, god only knows where else. tear in the ozone. what do you expect? its only going to get worse my friend.

Hi just a thought on the ozone layer and a few other things.
It is considered that the hole in the ozone layer is caused by chloroflourocarbons ie r12 refrigerants etc. however these chemicals came about much later than when the ozone layer hole was discovered, and it was bigger back then than what it is now.
I know people are big polluters, but consider this, we are also part of this planet, not foreign to it, we are made to be here along with other animals, plants etc and we we given brains and the capacity to change things and develop ourselves. I have a gut feeling that the planet has the capacity to shrug off what damage we do, although we possibly walk a tightrope on this.
we are getting environmentally better, but growing world population, negates some of this.
there are a lot of alarmist views on climate change, but when we look back at history, most of what we see today has happened in the past, well before our technological age.
I am not saying that we dont cause damage, or that the climate isnt changing or that i particularly disagree with anyone elses views, my personal jury is still out over this type of stuff.... just some food for thought.

[Jy]

Yikes! I bet!! Right now in southwestern Ontario it's -16C. Good thing I have long underwear!




Mad, I think pissed off is more like it, Up in western Canada it was a low of -25C or -13F and got all the way up to -20C or -5F. Damn Cold. The body isnt used to it yet....

[spare_change]

Yikes! I bet!! Right now in southwestern Ontario it's -16C. Good thing I have long underwear!

Are they see thru long underwear? Is there such a thing as bikini long underwear? Please, at least tell me it has a bow on the front!

[Cotties]

What year was this hole discovered? These r12 gases..when did they go into production. "The hole was bigger before".....I'm confused
I'm sorry Tiger but the industrialization of the world has not been around forever. This I do know. Any reason you may have heard about for the coral of the sea dying. This may take care of itself, but the human race may be extinct... I'll shut up now...
:wa:
=tiger50]Hi just a thought on the ozone layer and a few other things.
It is considered that the hole in the ozone layer is caused by chloroflourocarbons ie r12 refrigerants etc. however these chemicals came about much later than when the ozone layer hole was discovered, and it was bigger back then than what it is now.
I know people are big polluters, but consider this, we are also part of this planet, not foreign to it, we are made to be here along with other animals, plants etc and we we given brains and the capacity to change things and develop ourselves. I have a gut feeling that the planet has the capacity to shrug off what damage we do, although we possibly walk a tightrope on this.
we are getting environmentally better, but growing world population, negates some of this.
there are a lot of alarmist views on climate change, but when we look back at history, most of what we see today has happened in the past, well before our technological age.
I am not saying that we dont cause damage, or that the climate isnt changing or that i particularly disagree with anyone elses views, my personal jury is still out over this type of stuff.... just some food for thought.[/QUOTE]

[spare_change]

I think we all need to be careful about mixing apples and oranges here -- the existence of the ozone layer has been known for a long time. There are scientific discussions about it dating back to the early 20s, though they didn't know exactly how to quanitify it. It was discovered by watching its impact on light rays that entered its area.

The hole in the ozone layer, however, wasn't discovered until 1985. This so-called rip has contracted, expanded, and contracted in the 20 years since. However, it's expansions have been larger than the contractions, and has resulted in an overall average gain in size.

Recent studies in Antartica ice have identified that the ozone layer has existed forever -- certainly for the time period covering all human documention. Further, expansions and contractions also appear to be a normal process. There is no way to determine the overall impact -- too little data exists to determine if the existence of humankind is negatively impacting the ozone layer, or if we are having no impact whatsoever.

[Norfolkdave]

Yikes! I bet!! Right now in southwestern Ontario it's -16C. Good thing I have long underwear!

Not much we can say on that then is then, except it be a fighters lament to get there!:lmao

[Jy]

You're just a wealth of knowledge, aren't you?




I think we all need to be careful about mixing apples and oranges here -- the existence of the ozone layer has been known for a long time. There are scientific discussions about it dating back to the early 20s, though they didn't know exactly how to quanitify it. It was discovered by watching its impact on light rays that entered its area.

The hole in the ozone layer, however, wasn't discovered until 1985. This so-called rip has contracted, expanded, and contracted in the 20 years since. However, it's expansions have been larger than the contractions, and has resulted in an overall average gain in size.

Recent studies in Antartica ice have identified that the ozone layer has existed forever -- certainly for the time period covering all human documention. Further, expansions and contractions also appear to be a normal process. There is no way to determine the overall impact -- too little data exists to determine if the existence of humankind is negatively impacting the ozone layer, or if we are having no impact whatsoever.

[Jy]

Sorry to disappoint all of you men, but my long underwear is white, made by Hanes, and actually a men's XS!! When it gets this cold, to heck with the details. I need to be warm!

[Barkiss]

Sorry to disappoint all of you men, but my long underwear is white, made by Hanes, and actually a men's XS!! When it gets this cold, to heck with the details. I need to be warm!

:hitit:

[Norfolkdave]

Sorry to disappoint all of you men, but my long underwear is white, made by Hanes, and actually a men's XS!! When it gets this cold, to heck with the details. I need to be warm!

LOL:lmao

[spare_change]

You're just a wealth of knowledge, aren't you?

It's amazing what you can find out if you do 15 minutes research on the Internet!!! The topic intrigued me, so I went looking. When we had opposing opinions from learned members, I got curious.

[surfnchat]

It's amazing what you can find out if you do 15 minutes research on the Internet!!! The topic intrigued me, so I went looking. When we had opposing opinions from learned members, I got curious.

The heck with the Internet. I can make up a ton if sh!t in 2-3 min. :bs :D

[clitlicker111]

We all did!

[spare_change]

The heck with the Internet. I can make up a ton if sh!t in 2-3 min. :bs :D

Very true, unless, of course,you are smart enough to use legitimate sources like NOAA and the National Space Foundation websites -- not to mention, peeking into the Library of Congress notes on the recent House committe meetings on global warming.

[Cotties]

Spare I'll give you a pat on the back for doing some research.

I heard on the T.V the other day that the Chinese are completing a coal powered plant every five days in order to match their industrial growth. I am no greeny, but I can't see how nature is going to balance this out. I am aware that the average volcano makes the average city smog look like a back yard BBQ. la la la
All I really think is industry has a lot to gain by saying the problem is not real{ours}. The environmentalist have a lot to gain by saying it's bad we need more research. But from a common sense point of view I guess polutants are called this for a negative reason and if they can alter what's going on it's for the better.;)

I think we all need to be careful about mixing apples and oranges here -- the existence of the ozone layer has been known for a long time. There are scientific discussions about it dating back to the early 20s, though they didn't know exactly how to quanitify it. It was discovered by watching its impact on light rays that entered its area.

The hole in the ozone layer, however, wasn't discovered until 1985. This so-called rip has contracted, expanded, and contracted in the 20 years since. However, it's expansions have been larger than the contractions, and has resulted in an overall average gain in size.

Recent studies in Antartica ice have identified that the ozone layer has existed forever -- certainly for the time period covering all human documention. Further, expansions and contractions also appear to be a normal process. There is no way to determine the overall impact -- too little data exists to determine if the existence of humankind is negatively impacting the ozone layer, or if we are having no impact whatsoever.

[spare_change]

I heard on the T.V the other day that the Chinese are completing a coal powered plant every five days in order to match their industrial growth. I am no greeny, but I can't see how nature is going to balance this out. I am aware that the average volcano makes the average city smog look like a back yard BBQ. la la la
All I really think is industry has a lot to gain by saying the problem is not real{ours}. The environmentalist have a lot to gain by saying it's bad we need more research. But from a common sense point of view I guess polutants are called this for a negative reason and if they can alter what's going on it's for the better.;)

It is a "bit of a sticky wicket", no doubt. China and other countries are so behind economically that, even if they knew they were doing ecological damage, they have no choice but to go forward in an attempt to advance their country.

Conversely, we do have to worry about the impacts we are having -- sometimes to prevent them, and other times, to learn how to compensate for them. But, you are right -- that many coal plants operating will have a significant effect on a lot of things -- not the least of which is our weather.

[Norfolkdave]

The heck with the Internet. I can make up a ton if sh!t in 2-3 min. :bs :D

You said it:lmao

[tiger50]

What year was this hole discovered? These r12 gases..when did they go into production. "The hole was bigger before".....I'm confused
I'm sorry Tiger but the industrialization of the world has not been around forever. This I do know. Any reason you may have heard about for the coral of the sea dying. This may take care of itself, but the human race may be extinct... I'll shut up now...
:wa:
=tiger50]Hi just a thought on the ozone layer and a few other things.
It is considered that the hole in the ozone layer is caused by chloroflourocarbons ie r12 refrigerants etc. however these chemicals came about much later than when the ozone layer hole was discovered, and it was bigger back then than what it is now.
I know people are big polluters, but consider this, we are also part of this planet, not foreign to it, we are made to be here along with other animals, plants etc and we we given brains and the capacity to change things and develop ourselves. I have a gut feeling that the planet has the capacity to shrug off what damage we do, although we possibly walk a tightrope on this.
we are getting environmentally better, but growing world population, negates some of this.
there are a lot of alarmist views on climate change, but when we look back at history, most of what we see today has happened in the past, well before our technological age.
I am not saying that we dont cause damage, or that the climate isnt changing or that i particularly disagree with anyone elses views, my personal jury is still out over this type of stuff.... just some food for thought.[/QUOTE]

To my knowledge, the ozone layer hole was discovered in the early fifties, the the r12 family of refrigerants came into vogue in the late 60's to early 70's to replace ammonia.
We have real problem in oz with greenies (tree huggers etc) where common sense goes out the window, eg there is a forest in Tasmania that is dying, reason???, natural aging, but is not allowed to be logged, why not log it and allow the natural regrowth??.wood is a renewable resource, just use common sense.
Over the ages before we had civilisation, massive areas were burnt out by fires caused by lightning, It all regrows. One of the reasons i have said nature tends to shrug off what we do..as it did before we were here.( It isnt)
Some movements here say our great barrier reef is in great danger, and so is the Murray river (A major river separating NSW, victoria and South Australia. The scientific evidence however says all have never been in better condition (This one i have been close to, and know the salinity of the river is lower now than it was in 1933.)
there is a whole raft of issues and thinks i would like to say, howeverin the intersests of political correctness its best if i dont go there...

[SirFox]

You shouls see the satellite photos taken of the London (England) explosion of 20 or so petrol reservoirs. The dark clouds were so thick that they were picked up by satellite as earliy as last Sunday. It is being said that the cloud is coming this away an heading towards Galicia, Spain (northwestern Spain).

This is the type of environmental disaster that may become more and more frequent and we must be ready to get the shovel and pail to do something about helping top prevent these accidents...

Meanwhile the Kyoto Agreement and al are not signed by the largest pollutants.

:cry:

[Krazi0469]

Today in Alabama has been pretty rainy... which i love the rain... lmao means i can go muddin tonight with Jared... which i think imma gonna do

[surfnchat]

You said it:lmao

And that took less than a minute! :lmao

[Cotties]

Hi again Tiger

Do you regret those greenies cleaning up the Murry?
the forests down in Tasi are over 10000 years old or some shit like that.Parts are dying off, most parts aren't. Maybe Tasi needs to look at ways to stimulate their economy and not look at cheap ways to make a buck for a small percentage of the local land owners and wood chipping companies. Tiger ...may I ask what you do for a living?
Did you think it was clever the way they put a uranium mine in protected areas up in Queensland. I love the way it leaks down river and they say we didn't know that would happen. The geenies new it before it happened... Somebody needs to make the Aussie Govt accountable..
Do you trust little Johnny? I voted for him


To my knowledge, the ozone layer hole was discovered in the early fifties, the the r12 family of refrigerants came into vogue in the late 60's to early 70's to replace ammonia.
We have real problem in oz with greenies (tree huggers etc) where common sense goes out the window, eg there is a forest in Tasmania that is dying, reason???, natural aging, but is not allowed to be logged, why not log it and allow the natural regrowth??.wood is a renewable resource, just use common sense.
Over the ages before we had civilisation, massive areas were burnt out by fires caused by lightning, It all regrows. One of the reasons i have said nature tends to shrug off what we do..as it did before we were here.( It isnt)
Some movements here say our great barrier reef is in great danger, and so is the Murray river (A major river separating NSW, victoria and South Australia. The scientific evidence however says all have never been in better condition (This one i have been close to, and know the salinity of the river is lower now than it was in 1933.)
there is a whole raft of issues and thinks i would like to say, howeverin the intersests of political correctness its best if i dont go there...[/QUOTE]

[tiger50]

Hi again Tiger

Do you regret those greenies cleaning up the Murry?
the forests down in Tasi are over 10000 years old or some shit like that.Parts are dying off, most parts aren't. Maybe Tasi needs to look at ways to stimulate their economy and not look at cheap ways to make a buck for a small percentage of the local land owners and wood chipping companies. Tiger ...may I ask what you do for a living?
Did you think it was clever the way they put a uranium mine in protected areas up in Queensland. I love the way it leaks down river and they say we didn't know that would happen. The geenies new it before it happened... Somebody needs to make the Aussie Govt accountable..
Do you trust little Johnny? I voted for him


To my knowledge, the ozone layer hole was discovered in the early fifties, the the r12 family of refrigerants came into vogue in the late 60's to early 70's to replace ammonia.
We have real problem in oz with greenies (tree huggers etc) where common sense goes out the window, eg there is a forest in Tasmania that is dying, reason???, natural aging, but is not allowed to be logged, why not log it and allow the natural regrowth??.wood is a renewable resource, just use common sense.
Over the ages before we had civilisation, massive areas were burnt out by fires caused by lightning, It all regrows. One of the reasons i have said nature tends to shrug off what we do..as it did before we were here.( It isnt)
Some movements here say our great barrier reef is in great danger, and so is the Murray river (A major river separating NSW, victoria and South Australia. The scientific evidence however says all have never been in better condition (This one i have been close to, and know the salinity of the river is lower now than it was in 1933.)
there is a whole raft of issues and thinks i would like to say, howeverin the intersests of political correctness its best if i dont go there...[/QUOTE]

wow a compatriate???
sure mate u can ask me anything, i am an ex fitter and turner, ex mechanical engineer, now write software and babysit 60 odd computers..
nooo dont regret claean ups, anything that helps is good.The tassie forest issue, mm well healthy old forests we should keep, those that are naturally dying we should be able to utilise... to me its common sense stuff, we can grow wood as we do tomatoes, we cant grow coal, oil or metal resources, we can only exploit them, and ulimately this has to end... cant really comment on the uranium issue, dont know enuf about it.
As for Johnny, yeh i voted for him too, but mainly cos the alternative was crap...
good ta meet ya mate....

[tiger50]

lol just looked at ur profile lol
I have lived in Thailand for 7 years and my wife loves sex..help!
OMG u doooo need help...lol...

[SirFox]

lol just looked at ur profile lol
I have lived in Thailand for 7 years and my wife loves sex..help!
OMG u doooo need help...lol...

TIGER. Do you need a helping hand with your wife? I am sure that there are loads of snowed in husbands who would like to take a trip to sunny Australia now. Are you inviting?

I could handle Australia as long as I saw the wine country ...and your wife...
:D

[Cotties]

Hi Tiger

I have a profile..shit..I better go check it out..where you from in Oz? enjoying our Sydney Lebenese?

lol just looked at ur profile lol
I have lived in Thailand for 7 years and my wife loves sex..help!
OMG u doooo need help...lol...

[Cotties]

Hey Fox

I think you talking about my wife there. And you once said I had gaul.
Just kidding fox.. We're pretty kinky at home...I'd prefer the wife swapping thing.. what would your wife think?
TIGER. Do you need a helping hand with your wife? I am sure that there are loads of snowed in husbands who would like to take a trip to sunny Australia now. Are you inviting?

I could handle Australia as long as I saw the wine country ...and your wife...
:D

[SirFox]

COTTIES. What do you mean wife swapping? You want other ladies or your wife want other ladies?

To tell you the truth...I will become a bachelor again in February if all goes well after two years of separation...so I am a deviant in the Married and Flirting Chat...guess will have to leave in February...

What would my to be former wife think? Horrors....she was a bit of a prude in a lot of ways...and only would have wanted one man...even though she cheated on me with a woman....

Wish I could have seen the woman actually...

It hurt and if you want to know everything....wish she had cheated on me with a man....

Now, since then..I have ......(censor...censor)....

[Sunfiresix]

We had a really good summer here but lately it's been cold and snowy, I like it but its still cooolld!!

[tiger50]

TIGER. Do you need a helping hand with your wife? I am sure that there are loads of snowed in husbands who would like to take a trip to sunny Australia now. Are you inviting?

I could handle Australia as long as I saw the wine country ...and your wife...
:D

mmm errr its not the wife mate, the g/f
anyway come on down, plenty of wine country to see. We are gaining a reputation for wines, we know cos the french dont like us anymore....lol

[tiger50]

Hi Tiger

I have a profile..shit..I better go check it out..where you from in Oz? enjoying our Sydney Lebenese?
From geelong mate, and noo i dont barrack for the cats..lol, note the name tiger...

[SirFox]

mmm errr its not the wife mate, the g/f
anyway come on down, plenty of wine country to see. We are gaining a reputation for wines, we know cos the french dont like us anymore....lol

Hello Tiger....I noted thank you. Would really like to barrel down to Australia and see wine country....it gets boring to see the same old wine yards day after day....here.

Thanks for the invitation. Will keep it in mind. Does your girlfriend have a girlfriend?

[tiger50]

come on down mate
yeh she has lots of em, but there mostly horny and kinky...

[MCat]

COTTIES. she cheated on me with a woman....

Wish I could have seen the woman actually...

It hurt and if you want to know everything....wish she had cheated on me with a man....

Now, since then..I have ......(censor...censor)....

I think if I were a man I would feel that same way....but of course now you know that it was not your manhood in question that made her stray. So that could be a positive.

[SirFox]

I think if I were a man I would feel that same way....but of course now you know that it was not your manhood in question that made her stray. So that could be a positive.

MARYCAT! I have come a long ways since then. And I am glad...just wish that I had been able to assimiliate the errors of my parents and the grandparents and the people before them. We are condemned to repeat the errors of our parents and forebearers..

No I am on to a more healthy relationship. Just wish I had not blown 20 years of my life with my two wifes, that's all. :( or ;)

[SirFox]

The latest on BIRD FLUE is that the Chinese government says that 85% of its chickens are now vaccinated against bird flue!

Imagine the number of chickens in the hundreds of millions....
Imagine the incredible part of this credible story....that the Chinese were able to vaccinate so many birds in such a short time...

:bs

[Cotties]

Hey Fox make sure you pop into Bangkok on your way down to Australia. My Kiwi mate runs an agency where thai women want to meet whiteguys. Basically he has about 50 on his books now and we have no men. These ladies are paying him money to meet guys. Some want a date,a fuck, some romance and some want your money. But mainly they want to try a white guy. The last American we had here had 5 girls in 7 days. The girls paid my mate to fuck his friend. Amazing Thailand!

[surfnchat]

78 degrees today in Dallas! Does anyone think it's odd to be wearing shorts outside at this time of year? And no, me wearing shorts isn't odd. :D

[SirFox]

Hey Fox make sure you pop into Bangkok on your way down to Australia. My Kiwi mate runs an agency where thai women want to meet whiteguys. Basically he has about 50 on his books now and we have no men. These ladies are paying him money to meet guys. Some want a date,a fuck, some romance and some want your money. But mainly they want to try a white guy. The last American we had here had 5 girls in 7 days. The girls paid my mate to fuck his friend. Amazing Thailand!

Cotties: Just give me the address and tell me how to get there. I will zip there from the airport, or does one need an appointment???? ;)

[surfnchat]

I hope no one has been affected by the nasty wildfires in TX and OK in addition to the rough storms in CA. That's a rough way to start the New Year... Yuck.

[Sunfiresix]

Mother Nature is pissed at something she has been beatin us for a while now--I hate to see the storms Batter those places.

[Sandy]

i do to. i think she is trying to tell us something.

[Shiane]

I hope no one has been affected by the nasty wildfires in TX and OK in addition to the rough storms in CA. That's a rough way to start the New Year... Yuck.

Yeah lots of fires here, the smell of smoke lingers everywhere. Driving to work I went through several areas of thick smoke. The hospital smelled of smoke and that was because of the air intake. Sooo windy and so dry, its just terrible here last I had heard some 250,000 acres had burned here in Oklahoma. Thankfully though nothing close to my house, but several of my co-workers were pretty nervous because fires were very close to thier homes. Some rain would be nice!

[Cotties]

Myself and a lady or two can meet you the airport. No appointment needed. The women come to the shop daily checking for a single white male.Cotties: Just give me the address and tell me how to get there. I will zip there from the airport, or does one need an appointment???? ;)

[SirFox]

Myself and a lady or two can meet you the airport. No appointment needed. The women come to the shop daily checking for a single white male.

What kind of shoppe do you run?

P.S. You will have to give me your address in a PM.

[Norfolkdave]

More snow coming our way tomorrow and friday and I thought we got rid of it, someone has a heavy hand with the yard broom

[SirFox]

The Fog is rolling again from the West.. it must be the fault of the Americans or the Canadians with their polar air (2 weeks down the road) who are making us freeze to death. I guess Europe never thinks about winter provisions of gas and petrol. :whee:

[Barkiss]

Isn't it everything always our fault??? ;)

[Trev]

The Fog is rolling again from the West.. it must be the fault of the Americans or the Canadians with their polar air (2 weeks down the road) who are making us freeze to death. I guess Europe never thinks about winter provisions of gas and petrol. :whee:

Were always trying to get rid of the bad things.

[SirFox]

Isn't it everything always our fault??? ;)

Actually BARKISS... it is not America or Canada's fault. America just lies to the west of Europe. What you send us over here, we digest. Imagine what we do with the cold air when we send it east to Russia and Asia.....
Now what Russia and Asia do with the cold air...I don't know....

As long as it is not hot air.....spewing forth....

[Cotties]

Women who are lonely or just want to have fun. We offer them a chance to meet foreign men usually by internet. Some women have money, some have lots but none are broke and desperate. We also sell American cosmetics at huge prices so they will pretty when they meet the right man. We teach them English to polish up on their conversational skills. We also teACH them that it's good to get drunk and dance when our wives aren't around. What kind of shoppe do you run?

P.S. You will have to give me your address in a PM.

[Zpanther]

Women who are lonely or just want to have fun. We offer them a chance to meet foreign men usually by internet. Some women have money, some have lots but none are broke and desperate. We also sell American cosmetics at huge prices so they will pretty when they meet the right man. We teach them English to polish up on their conversational skills. We also teACH them that it's good to get drunk and dance when our wives aren't around.

hmmmmmmmmmm........ does the pimp outfit and bright yellow cadillac come with the job, or do ya have to buy that on your own?

[MCat]

hmmmmmmmmmm........ does the pimp outfit and bright yellow cadillac come with the job, or do ya have to buy that on your own?

Ok , I am tempted to use the little laughing guy.....I'll use this one instead.

:lh

[surfnchat]

Supposed to hit 85 degrees in Dallas today. That's messed up. I can only imagine how bad the summer is going to be when we are only 15 degrees off 100 in early January! I need to save up now to pay the brutal electric bill that's coming in a few months.

[Norfolkdave]

Supposed to hit 85 degrees in Dallas today. That's messed up. I can only imagine how bad the summer is going to be when we are only 15 degrees off 100 in early January! I need to save up now to pay the brutal electric bill that's coming in a few months.

We pay a bit each week, and when our quarterly bill arrives we normally dont have to pay much, if any.

[MCat]

Supposed to hit 85 degrees in Dallas today. That's messed up. I can only imagine how bad the summer is going to be when we are only 15 degrees off 100 in early January! I need to save up now to pay the brutal electric bill that's coming in a few months.

Dang, and we want to come to Texas in May.....I will just melt :(

[Sunfiresix]

We seem to have lucked out so far our gas and elec. bills are modest. Our weater has been unusually mild this year.

[Norfolkdave]

We have had no sun for 3 days, its heavy with grey cloud, very dark in the mornings at 8am, and the winter blues have set in, its horrible, roll on spring.

[Sunfiresix]

We went 14 days without sun, dreary and dismal but at least it wasn't the usual freezing , I am sure that will happen. At least it has been merciful. I have you guys to lift them winter blues, Thanks..

[SirFox]

It has been raining here for days..with some let ups...Do not know whether it is the thermometers or the actual temperatures that are going crazy...we had warm weather two days ago and could go out in a shirt and sweater. Today it is back to a parka and sweater and snow shoes...

[Sandy]

friday nite was down in the 20s, yesterday, (sunday) was in the 70s. go figure.,

[MCat]

We went 14 days without sun, dreary and dismal but at least it wasn't the usual freezing , I am sure that will happen. At least it has been merciful. I have you guys to lift them winter blues, Thanks..

We have had a 2 week stretch without sun also, I agree about the blues, sure can sneak up on ya...Thank goodness I go back to work tomorrow.

[Norfolkdave]

We have had a 2 week stretch without sun also, I agree about the blues, sure can sneak up on ya...Thank goodness I go back to work tomorrow.

If the uk gets everything the states has ( weather wise to a degree).........LOL OMG when will the ladies follow:D :sex

[MCat]

If the uk gets everything the states has ( weather wise to a degree).........LOL OMG when will the ladies follow:D :sex

We could just hop on a rain cloud and come on over....get ready for us Dave...

[sir1279]

here in southern maryland its be freezing one day and hot the next....makes it hard to dress right....unless your going to bed.....

[Penny]

40 here today. almost a heat wave :)

[Norfolkdave]

We could just hop on a rain cloud and come on over....get ready for us Dave...

Where are you, its raining now, let me know when you want to jump:D

[tiger50]

mm had 2 days running at over 110 here, but its raining this mornin... phew...

[Sandy]

its about 70 here we;'re enjoying it.t.

[Rainmaker]

the weather here is all screwed up as well. but i think we did it to ourselves-if u dont respect nature.. it wont repsect u

[surfnchat]

the weather here is all screwed up as well. but i think we did it to ourselves-if u dont respect nature.. it wont repsect u

Well said! :55

[Rainmaker]

Well said! :55

thanks:kk

[surfnchat]

thanks:kk

You are very welcome. :kk

[Norfolkdave]

Britain is set to suffer from rain and strong winds this week as Europe is hit by the weather system that brought record-breaking snow storms to New York:nu

The stormy conditions will be experienced by most of the country by Thursday and Friday, bringing heavy showers and blustery conditions.

But he stressed the UK is not expected to see any snowfalls. He said: "We're going to have some strong winds in west-facing areas like Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales and the West Country and everywhere will get a good soaking.

"It's not going to blow houses down and is pretty much a typical winter storm.

"It won't be particularly cold, but conditions will be changeable and unsettled.

.

[MCat]

You probably missed it in the rush of news last week, but there was actually a report that someone in Pakistan had published in a newspaper an offer of a reward to anyone who killed an American, any American.

So an Australian dentist wrote an editorial the following day to let everyone know what an American is . So they would know when they found one. (Good one, mate!!!!)



Written by an Australian Dentist...


To Kill an American




"An American is English, or French, or Italian, Irish, German, Spanish, Polish, Russian or Greek. An American may also be Canadian, Mexican, African, Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Australian, Iranian, Asian, or Arab, or Pakistani or Afghan. "


An American may also be a Comanche, Cherokee, Osage, Blackfoot, Navaho, Apache, Seminole or one of the many other tribes known as Native Americans.


An American is Christian, or he could be Jewish, or Buddhist, or Muslim. In fact, there are more Muslims in America than in Afghanistan. The only difference is that in America they are free to worship as each of them chooses.


An American is also free to believe in no religion. For th! at he will answer only to God, not to the government, or to armed thugs claiming to speak for the government and for God.


An American lives in the most prosperous land in the history of the world. The root of that prosperity can be found in the Declaration of Independence, which recognizes the God given right of each person to the pursuit of happiness.


An American is generous. Americans have helped out just about every oth! er nation in the world in their time of need, never asking a thing in return. When Afghanistan was over-run by the Soviet army 20 years ago, Americans came with arms and supplies to enable the people to win back their country!


As of the morning of September 11, Americans had given more than any other nation to the poor in Afghanistan. Americans welcome the best of everything...the best products, the best books, the best music, the best food, the best services. But they also welcome the least.


The national symbol of America, The Statue of Liberty, welcomes your tired and your poor, the wretched refuse of your teeming shores, the homeless, tempest tossed. These in fact are the people who built America.


Some of them were working in the Twin Towers the morning of September 11, 2001 earning a better life for their families. It's been told that the World Trade Center victims were from at least 30 different countries, cultures, and first languages, including those that aided and abetted the terrorists.


So you can try to kill an American if you must. Hitler did. So did General Tojo, and Stalin, and Mao Tse-Tung, and other blood-thirst! y tyrants in the world. But, in doing so you would just be killing yourself. Because Americans are not a particular people from a particular place. They are the embodiment of the human spirit of freedom. Everyone who holds to that spirit, everywhere, is an American.

[KIRA187]

You probably missed it in the rush of news last week, but there was actually a report that someone in Pakistan had published in a newspaper an offer of a reward to anyone who killed an American, any American.

So an Australian dentist wrote an editorial the following day to let everyone know what an American is . So they would know when they found one. (Good one, mate!!!!)



Written by an Australian Dentist...


To Kill an American




"An American is English, or French, or Italian, Irish, German, Spanish, Polish, Russian or Greek. An American may also be Canadian, Mexican, African, Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Australian, Iranian, Asian, or Arab, or Pakistani or Afghan. "


An American may also be a Comanche, Cherokee, Osage, Blackfoot, Navaho, Apache, Seminole or one of the many other tribes known as Native Americans.


An American is Christian, or he could be Jewish, or Buddhist, or Muslim. In fact, there are more Muslims in America than in Afghanistan. The only difference is that in America they are free to worship as each of them chooses.


An American is also free to believe in no religion. For th! at he will answer only to God, not to the government, or to armed thugs claiming to speak for the government and for God.


An American lives in the most prosperous land in the history of the world. The root of that prosperity can be found in the Declaration of Independence, which recognizes the God given right of each person to the pursuit of happiness.


An American is generous. Americans have helped out just about every oth! er nation in the world in their time of need, never asking a thing in return. When Afghanistan was over-run by the Soviet army 20 years ago, Americans came with arms and supplies to enable the people to win back their country!


As of the morning of September 11, Americans had given more than any other nation to the poor in Afghanistan. Americans welcome the best of everything...the best products, the best books, the best music, the best food, the best services. But they also welcome the least.


The national symbol of America, The Statue of Liberty, welcomes your tired and your poor, the wretched refuse of your teeming shores, the homeless, tempest tossed. These in fact are the people who built America.


Some of them were working in the Twin Towers the morning of September 11, 2001 earning a better life for their families. It's been told that the World Trade Center victims were from at least 30 different countries, cultures, and first languages, including those that aided and abetted the terrorists.


So you can try to kill an American if you must. Hitler did. So did General Tojo, and Stalin, and Mao Tse-Tung, and other blood-thirst! y tyrants in the world. But, in doing so you would just be killing yourself. Because Americans are not a particular people from a particular place. They are the embodiment of the human spirit of freedom. Everyone who holds to that spirit, everywhere, is an American.



Thanks MC for sharing this with us. :hug:

[Norfolkdave]

I,ll have to get Irish to build me a raft if this rain is coming from the states,

[Sandy]

shoot what about all the snow we're getting here

[Norfolkdave]

shoot what about all the snow we're getting here

and up go the waters and it comes to England thats why I need a raft!!!! :D