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01-23-2008, 06:41 PM
By Douglass K. Daniel
Assoicated Press.

Washington, D.C. --
A study of two nonprofit journalism organizations found that President Bush and top administration officals issued hundreds of false statements about the national security threat from Iraq in the two years following the 2001 terrorist attacks.

The study concluded that the statements "were part of an orchestrated campaign that effectively galvanized public opinion and, in the process led the nation to war under decidedly false pretenses."

The study was posted Tuesday on the Web site of the Center for Public Intergrity, which worked with the Fund for Independence in Journalism.

White House spokesman Scott Stanzel did not comment on the merits of the study Tuesday night but reiterated the administrations position that the world community viewed Iraq's leader, Saddam Hussein, as a threat.

"The actions taken in 2003 were based on the collective judgement of intelligence agencies around the world," Stanzel said.

The Center for Public Intergrity, a research group that focuses on ethics in government and public policy, designed the new website to allow simple searches for specific phrases such as "mushroom cloud" or "yellow cake uranium," in transcripts and documents totaling some 380,000 words, including remarks by President Bush and most of his top advisors in the two years after the September 11, 2001 attacks.

The study counted 935 seperate statements in the two-year period. It found that in speeches, briefings, interviews and other venues, Bush and administration officals stated unequivocally on at least 532 occasions that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction or was trying to produce or obtain them or hand links to al-Qaida or both.

"It is now beyond dispute that Iraq did not possess any weapons of mass destruction or have ties to al-Qaida," according to Charles Lewis and Mark Reading-Smith of the Fund for Independence in Journalism staff members, writing an overview of the study. "In short, the Bush Administration led the nation to war on the basis of erroneous enformation that it methodically propogated and that culminated in military action against Iraq on March 19, 2003."

Named in the study along with Bush were top officals of the administration during the period studied: Vice-President Dick Cheney, National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice, Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld, Secretary of State Colin Powell, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz and White House Press Secretaries Ari Fleischer and Scott McCellan.

Bush led with 259 false statements about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and 28 about Iraq's links to al-Qaida the study found. That was second only to Powell's 244 false statements about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and 10 about Iraq and al-Qaida.

The center said the study was based on a database created with public statements over the two years begining on September 11, 2001, and information from over 25 government reports, books, articles, speeches and interviews.

"The cumulative effect of these false statements-amplified by thousands of new stories and broadcasts-was massive and with media coverage creating an almost impenetrable din for several critical months on the run-up to war," the study concluded.

"Some journalists-indeed, even some entire news organzations-have acknowledged that their coverage during those prewar months was far too deferential and uncritical. These mea cuplas notwithstanding, much of the wall-to-wall coverage provided additional, Independent" validation of the Bush administration's false statements about Iraq," it (the report) said.

There is no startling new information in the archive, because all of the documents have been published previously. But the new computer tool is remarkable for its scope and its replay of the crescendo of statements that led to the war. Muckrakers may fin browsing the site reminiscent of what Richard Nixon used to dsimissively call "wallowing in Watergate."

Online resourses.

Center for Public Intergrity:
*www.publicintergrity.org (http://www.publicintergrity.org/)

Fund for Independence in Journalism:
*www.tfij.org/ (http://www.tfij.org/)

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As of Wednesday January 23, 2008 the number of U.S Military Personnel Killed In Combat: 3,929

All were killed in a war based on over 900 seperate and deliberate lies.

phantasm
01-25-2008, 06:20 PM
Well there is no looking back now.. we will never have the support for impeachment, so all we can do is move forward and away from the failures of the last 7 years. Though many of you might not like Democrats, I too wish there was a Centrist party, we have to change the direction this country is going in. Please vote for change in 08!

spare_change
01-25-2008, 11:37 PM
When guys sit around spouting the same misinformation over and over, it eventually begins to be believed. The truth has been so twisted by the leftmedia, that facts are not only difficult to find, they are irrelevant. Someone once said a lie goes around the world before the truth gets its shoes on. One blogger says X, another blogger points to the first blogger's statement as if it were fact, without bothering to determine its accuracy. Blogger 3 then publishes what 1 said, and uses 2 as validation. And the beat goes on and on ---

Not once does anybody bother to look at the source of the information, instead just going along because it must be true because 1, 2, and 3 said it was so.

For example, if anyone had bothered to look, the Center for Public Integrity advertises itself as a non-profit, non-partisan watchdog of politics. But, a two minute Internet search reveals that the CPI does not meet a single - not one -- of the twenty criteria for a non-profit charity, as outlined by the Better Business Bureau. So much for non-profit. So, the question is: who is funding them? Again, a quick search -- George Soros, the premier socialist in the country, and a huge supporter of Hillary Clinton. Oh, yes -- the Clinton machine receives significant funding by Soros, as well. So much for non-partisan.

But the point is, in today's environment, it doesn't matter. The hatred and vitriol has overwhelmed rational thinking. So, they all sit in a circle telling each other the same old lies, the same old half-truths, and the same old bullshit.

When I was a kid, they called it a circle jerk. Now, I know why.

spare_change
01-25-2008, 11:44 PM
Well there is no looking back now.. we will never have the support for impeachment, so all we can do is move forward and away from the failures of the last 7 years. Though many of you might not like Democrats, I too wish there was a Centrist party, we have to change the direction this country is going in. Please vote for change in 08!


THANK YOU for a voice of sanity. What's past is past -- we can't change it, and if history is any indication, we won't even learn from it.

But, I must admit I struggle. I hear the call to vote for change --- only problem is that nobody tells me "change to what"!! i learned a long time ago not to jump until i knew where i was going to land. Where are we going to land?

Iwantutowantme
01-25-2008, 11:55 PM
When guys sit around spouting the same misinformation over and over, it eventually begins to be believed. The truth has been so twisted by the leftmedia, that facts are not only difficult to find, they are irrelevant. Someone once said a lie goes around the world before the truth gets its shoes on. One blogger says X, another blogger points to the first blogger's statement as if it were fact, without bothering to determine its accuracy. Blogger 3 then publishes what 1 said, and uses 2 as validation. And the beat goes on and on ---

Not once does anybody bother to look at the source of the information, instead just going along because it must be true because 1, 2, and 3 said it was so.

For example, if anyone had bothered to look, the Center for Public Integrity advertises itself as a non-profit, non-partisan watchdog of politics. But, a two minute Internet search reveals that the CPI does not meet a single - not one -- of the twenty criteria for a non-profit charity, as outlined by the Better Business Bureau. So much for non-profit. So, the question is: who is funding them? Again, a quick search -- George Soros, the premier socialist in the country, and a huge supporter of Hillary Clinton. Oh, yes -- the Clinton machine receives significant funding by Soros, as well. So much for non-partisan.

But the point is, in today's environment, it doesn't matter. The hatred and vitriol has overwhelmed rational thinking. So, they all sit in a circle telling each other the same old lies, the same old half-truths, and the same old bullshit.

When I was a kid, they called it a circle jerk. Now, I know why.
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The information from the so called non-profit organization was not complete, not by a long shot. They should have added that it was the policy of this present administration to go to war with Iraq. They accomplished that by repetitive lies by Colin Powel, Bush II, Rumsfeld, Rice, Rove, and a host of corporate backed cronies who could care less about the people of the US. Iran is next on their list......... time to turn the channel....

spare_change
01-26-2008, 12:01 AM
... and when the New World Order takes over, they are going to send the Thought Police to arrest everybody who thinks they are unhappy, because, after all, the government won't let you be unhappy, it's not in the master plan ........

Iwantutowantme
01-26-2008, 12:03 AM
THANK YOU for a voice of sanity. What's past is past -- we can't change it, and if history is any indication, we won't even learn from it.

But, I must admit I struggle. I hear the call to vote for change --- only problem is that nobody tells me "change to what"!! i learned a long time ago not to jump until i knew where i was going to land. Where are we going to land?

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I have a guess as to where we are going to land........... WHEREVER THE GLOBAL CORPORATE ELITE WANTS US TO ....... a VOTE for any republican candidate or Hillary will not change the 'course' of the present adminsitration's ambitions. We will land somewhere between the guilded age and China......

Iwantutowantme
01-26-2008, 12:10 AM
... and when the New World Order takes over, they are going to send the Thought Police to arrest everybody who thinks they are unhappy, because, after all, the government won't let you be unhappy, it's not in the master plan ........

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no need for Thought Police.......they have illegal (legal) wiretaping now. I think everyone should be smiling ... after all...Bush says our economy is still strong.

phantasm
01-26-2008, 10:33 AM
THANK YOU for a voice of sanity. What's past is past -- we can't change it, and if history is any indication, we won't even learn from it.

But, I must admit I struggle. I hear the call to vote for change --- only problem is that nobody tells me "change to what"!! i learned a long time ago not to jump until i knew where i was going to land. Where are we going to land?

You can answer your own question by looking back at history, as you have advised us to do, and learning from it. Look at the ebb and flow between right and left of the executive branch over the past 100 years or so. After 8 years diving headlong towards the right, it is time to turn the corner and head to the left. Sure, it would be nice if we had a multitude of options at varying degrees of political pursuasion, but again I will play the part of the voice of sanity... WE DON'T!! There are 2 choices, and damned if one of them isn't going to win. It is up to us to recognize that we are in need of dramatic change, and the way that our country historically does that is to vote the other party into office.

phantasm
01-26-2008, 10:42 AM
... and when the New World Order takes over, they are going to send the Thought Police to arrest everybody who thinks they are unhappy, because, after all, the government won't let you be unhappy, it's not in the master plan ........

I have as big a problem with the left wing extremists as I do the right.. The 9/11 truthers, the big brother is watching you fellows. Extremes are what we need to avoid, as they serve to devide average people more as their beliefs are blatently disregarded when the other extreme is allowed to run rampant. In 4 or 8 years I am sure the winds will change and we will need a boot to the right again, but not now.