Reporting Bad PM's

[Penny]

I just made so if you get a PM that you think should be reported to me or one of the mods you can report it now. Its just like reporting a bad post.

With this new feature should people with 150 post be able to use the PM feature? If they abuse it they can be reported and the ability to send PM's will be removed.

[Krystal]

I think that's a fair compromise, Penny. You should try it for a while with the 150 posters and see how it works out. That way you can weed out the abusers. If it becomes a huge issue, you can always change it back to 500+, right?

[fever]

I'm lost when it comes to PMs. I thought w/less than 500 posts I couldn't PM, but when I'm in the chat room I can. I haven't tried using it in other circumstances. That said, I think it's worth a try. It's easy enough to ignore someone, but with chance to report it.... I assume you can turn off an individual's ability to PM if they abuse it, right?

[Krystal]

She means forum pm's, fever. Chat room pm's are a different function. I'm assuming they disabled forum pm's due to crazy stalkerish type people, but if they now have the ability to disable individuals, that's pretty cool.

[fever]

I figured...but I'm not there yet.

[private beaches]

Not had a problem with this-thank goodness. But thanks Penny! Youre the best!

[Penny]

With the new software the board is on now these little hacks are kind of easy to do so I have been shopping allot lately :)

[fever]

To everyone's benefit! I couldn't figure it out if my life depended on it...just glad I found my way here. Great changes...thank you!!

[Shawn_N_Sandiego]

I think 500 should still be the target.... its been known that someone can hit 150 in 3 days or so... i think it could be a problem...just my opinion.

[spare_change]

What sounds like a fair compromise is, unfortunately, fraught with the opportunity for abuse.

Who is going to decide what is an "appropriate" or "inappropriate" PM? Is it all in the perception of the receiver, or the sender? Are you going to establish a Supreme Court that will try to read into the PM what was intended? What happened to individual responsibility, and individual management?

Why do we need "big brother" passing judgment on the conversation between two adults? Sounds like applying a set of undefined standards to me ... what is the criteria? What are the guidelines? What are the punishments? Is it a sliding scale (one "let's fuck" gets you a day's suspension, whereas one "I'll tell your spouse" gets you a week?)

The complaints will significantly increase, not because the incidents increase, but because it is a judgment call for which the receiver or the judge incurs no penalty for error (obviously, if I complain, then the person is presumed guilty until proven otherwise).

The fact is, you have an unenforceable, and undefinable, set of standards that will depend on 1) the mod receiving the complaint, 2) his or her mood that day, 3) his or her opinion of the individual who sent it, and 4) whether of not the judge got laid last night.

Sounds like nothing but trouble to me .... for a problem that doesn't seem to exist, or if it does exist, is being handled between individuals.

[Dir]

I think 500 should still be the target.... its been known that someone can hit 150 in 3 days or so... i think it could be a problem...just my opinion.Yes Agreed with this

[Dir]

Wise as always ...What sounds like a fair compromise is, unfortunately, fraught with the opportunity for abuse.

Who is going to decide what is an "appropriate" or "inappropriate" PM? Is it all in the perception of the receiver, or the sender? Are you going to establish a Supreme Court that will try to read into the PM who was intended? What happened to individual responsibility, and individual management?

Why do we need "big brother" passing judgment on the conversation between two adults? Sounds like applying a set of undefined standards to me ... what is the criteria? What are the guidelines? What are the punishments? Is it a sliding scale (one "let's fuck" gets you a day's suspension, whereas one "I'll tell your spouse" gets you a week?)

The complaints will significantly increase, not because the incidents increase, but because it is a judgment call for which the receiver or the judge incurs no penalty for error (obviously, if I complain, then the person is presumed guilty until proven otherwise).

The fact is, you have an unenforceable, and undefinable, set of standards that will depend on 1) the mod receiving the complaint, 2) his or her mood that day, 3) his or her opinion of the individual who sent it, and 4) whether of not the judge got laid last night.

Sounds like nothing but trouble to me .... for a problem that doesn't seem to exist, or if it does exist, is being handled between individuals.

[dixiechiknga]

Appreciate the info no problems so far thanks!

[ksue7274]

I think 500 should still be the target.... its been known that someone can hit 150 in 3 days or so... i think it could be a problem...just my opinion.

Agreed

[cherokeered]

if someone is having issues with pm's...there is a spot on the user controls to only allow pm's from people on ur buddy list and mods.....
If you want to receive pm's from others...I feel you take your chances and unless there is some sort of threat of physical harm or something....which would be reported anyway...I really can't see this doing anything except making the mods take a lot of heat and being asked to make a judgement as to what constitutes a bad pm....and i am sure opinions will vary
I have been here 2 years and have been able to handle anything that has come my way....and to be honest, most of the men here have been very nice and respectful...and if they haven't taken no for an answer, they soon did....

[Lacey]

I think 500 should still be the target.... its been known that someone can hit 150 in 3 days or so... i think it could be a problem...just my opinion.



Agreed!

[Lacey]

What sounds like a fair compromise is, unfortunately, fraught with the opportunity for abuse.

Who is going to decide what is an "appropriate" or "inappropriate" PM? Is it all in the perception of the receiver, or the sender? Are you going to establish a Supreme Court that will try to read into the PM what was intended? What happened to individual responsibility, and individual management?

Why do we need "big brother" passing judgment on the conversation between two adults? Sounds like applying a set of undefined standards to me ... what is the criteria? What are the guidelines? What are the punishments? Is it a sliding scale (one "let's fuck" gets you a day's suspension, whereas one "I'll tell your spouse" gets you a week?)

The complaints will significantly increase, not because the incidents increase, but because it is a judgment call for which the receiver or the judge incurs no penalty for error (obviously, if I complain, then the person is presumed guilty until proven otherwise).

The fact is, you have an unenforceable, and undefinable, set of standards that will depend on 1) the mod receiving the complaint, 2) his or her mood that day, 3) his or her opinion of the individual who sent it, and 4) whether of not the judge got laid last night.

Sounds like nothing but trouble to me .... for a problem that doesn't seem to exist, or if it does exist, is being handled between individuals.


Again ....I agree

[jimmy-love-fl]

At first I was not a fan of needing to get to 500 posts, but now I see it's relevance. I think there we be a bunch of sick perverted guys on here looking for a cheap thrill PM all the girls all the time if it was that easy. Besides, there is really only room for one of me here anyways. LMAO

[Barkiss]

I agree with Spare. Unless we can establish clear, objective rules with very specific penalties, this could snowball into a moderator nightmare....behind the scenes specifically.

[flamengo130]

I agree with Spare. It's too much up in the air as to what is appropriate or not appropriate. But then again, it doesn't affect me much, since I haven't sent or received a PM in about three months.

[Krystal]

You've all got valid points....I think the word "abuse" would need to be clearly defined in this situation.

Penny, is there a possibility of an "ignore" function on here, as there is in the chatroom? Maybe that would be more conducive to what you're trying to achieve? That way, as spare said, it could be handled between individuals (without taking up your day reading complaints about abuse). :)

[Barkiss]

You've all got valid points....I think the word "abuse" would need to be clearly defined in this situation.

Penny, is there a possibility of an "ignore" function on here, as there is in the chatroom? Maybe that would be more conducive to what you're trying to achieve? That way, as spare said, it could be handled between individuals (without taking up your day reading complaints about abuse). :)

Yes...inside of your profile, you have the ability to ignore any of the regular members.

[Han Solo]

I agree with Spare. Unless we can establish clear, objective rules with very specific penalties, this could snowball into a moderator nightmare....behind the scenes specifically.
I agree that something like that could turn into an administrative nightmare....And personally I would rather not have to have Barkiss tied up "administering" so I can hear his amazing thoughts and be in awe of his infinite wisdom:wy...................(Ummmm.......still not getting my Han Solo avatars back am I???:sg.......OK, well ya can't blame me for tryin:D)......but seriously....if a person has the capability to either ignore or only accept PM's from people on their buddy list if they choose then that should pretty much cover all the bases without all the extra work

[Barkiss]

I agree that something like that could turn into an administrative nightmare....And personally I would rather not have to have Barkiss tied up "administering" so I can hear his amazing thoughts and be in awe of his infinite wisdom:wy...................(Ummmm.......still not getting my Han Solo avatars back am I???:sg.......OK, well ya can't blame me for tryin:D)......but seriously....if a person has the capability to either ignore or only accept PM's from people on their buddy list if they choose then that should pretty much cover all the bases without all the extra work

You were very close. Unfortunately my ego is already inflated, but my pockets are empty....so bribes are welcome. ;)

[cyclops]

What sounds like a fair compromise is, unfortunately, fraught with the opportunity for abuse.

Who is going to decide what is an "appropriate" or "inappropriate" PM? Is it all in the perception of the receiver, or the sender? Are you going to establish a Supreme Court that will try to read into the PM what was intended? What happened to individual responsibility, and individual management?

Why do we need "big brother" passing judgment on the conversation between two adults? Sounds like applying a set of undefined standards to me ... what is the criteria? What are the guidelines? What are the punishments? Is it a sliding scale (one "let's fuck" gets you a day's suspension, whereas one "I'll tell your spouse" gets you a week?)

The complaints will significantly increase, not because the incidents increase, but because it is a judgment call for which the receiver or the judge incurs no penalty for error (obviously, if I complain, then the person is presumed guilty until proven otherwise).

The fact is, you have an unenforceable, and undefinable, set of standards that will depend on 1) the mod receiving the complaint, 2) his or her mood that day, 3) his or her opinion of the individual who sent it, and 4) whether of not the judge got laid last night.

Sounds like nothing but trouble to me .... for a problem that doesn't seem to exist, or if it does exist, is being handled between individuals.

Yep everything he said

[Shafe]

What sounds like a fair compromise is, unfortunately, fraught with the opportunity for abuse.

Who is going to decide what is an "appropriate" or "inappropriate" PM? Is it all in the perception of the receiver, or the sender? Are you going to establish a Supreme Court that will try to read into the PM what was intended? What happened to individual responsibility, and individual management?

Why do we need "big brother" passing judgment on the conversation between two adults? Sounds like applying a set of undefined standards to me ... what is the criteria? What are the guidelines? What are the punishments? Is it a sliding scale (one "let's fuck" gets you a day's suspension, whereas one "I'll tell your spouse" gets you a week?)

The complaints will significantly increase, not because the incidents increase, but because it is a judgment call for which the receiver or the judge incurs no penalty for error (obviously, if I complain, then the person is presumed guilty until proven otherwise).

The fact is, you have an unenforceable, and undefinable, set of standards that will depend on 1) the mod receiving the complaint, 2) his or her mood that day, 3) his or her opinion of the individual who sent it, and 4) whether of not the judge got laid last night.

Sounds like nothing but trouble to me .... for a problem that doesn't seem to exist, or if it does exist, is being handled between individuals.

The ability to report an inappropriate PM already exists -- simply talking to a mod and asking for their help. This just makes it easier to do so. I see no problem with it at all.

As for clearly outlining the "rules", there really isn't a simple standard to regulate behavior. We all wouldn't be here if there was.

I do agree with keeping the post count at 500, it's not too difficult to get to 150, and by the time someone's reached 500 they've decided whether they're going to continue staying with us.

[Shiane]

It does sound as if everyone has the same concerns. I am sure that Penny will take all of your comments into consideration on this matter.

I do agree some guidelines need to be established so that everyone understands what and when to report pm's as well as the consequences for those who abuse this.

[fourisit]

I just ignore them..I am a big girl and I decide who I talk to and if I dont like what they are saying I dont answer...unless they threaten me I wont care what they say.