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Old 04-20-2008, 09:05 PM   #51
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LOL, whatever this site is (and being run by bunch of NFs means nobody can tell for sure), it is full of NFs .. which means they have the most problems when it comes to relationships .. NTs usually have no problems .. unless something happens that is way beyond their control ..

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LOL, Lets not go there, since I would have some stories to tell on this subject, NTs will do everything in the name of research

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No insult intended, but I call your type a "confused" one, most likely you are confused on which side of the box are you
I am on the top of the box...and I took the test again...and got a different result.....lol
interesting.....dontcha think????
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Yes to both; and the original Meyers-Briggs test that we used placed the ISTJ as a teacher, as well
It is amazing how much can an MBTI score tell you about a person if you know how to interpret it, LOL, it works for me, so I am sticking with it.

As for the difference between P's and J's .. a 100% P would be immobilized by analyzing all the causes and effects, never making a decision. a 100% J is a dogmatic, he'll never change his decision in spite of all the evidence to the contrary. Replace decision with conclusion, closure, it is the same. Once the mind is made, there is no going back .. and combine that with a non NT mind .. a grand inquisitor indeed
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Are you looking for reasons to justify leaving?
LOL, I do not need to justify anything to anybody except myself. I'll leave when there is nothing left for me to learn here


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Or for your getting into arguments and irritating people from your very first postings with your attitude?
LMAO, Trust me, NTs are never, ever irritated by my attitude, it is always dominant Fs that are bothered by me and I have learned not to argue with them .. since no rational debate is possible.

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And there have been rational arguments -- you just chose to take them as personal attacks or defensiveness.
LOL, as I said people project themselves unto others and perceive them as they want to not as they are. I am the one who did not take anything personally here, I voiced my displeasure in a rather rational and objective manner, except for the spare, I have not heard any rational answer, so I gave up, and decided to run a bit of research to find out who am I talking to.


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For example, my first question is a reasonable and logical extension of your own words; but if I didn't explain it here, I bet you would choose to take it as my wanting you to leave.
Quite the contrary, you perceive me through your eyes, and that is how you would react if somebody were to say that to you. Unless I am thrown out, I will leave when I decide too.


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This is not the case; it is a rational progression from what YOU said.
LOL, it is always funny when non-NTs do the "rational" progression there is a reason why NT subgroup is called "rational" and NFs are not I never mean any offense (although it is always perceived that way among non NTs), I am just stating the facts.


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Now the second is more personal, I admit. But your attitude (as defined by your word choices) in many posts seemed to be (and not just my perspective solely) that any decision you either didn't understand or agree with must not have been well thought out or was arbitrary. That is what caused the friction, moreso than your disagreement.
You are absolutely right here, I value my opinion, or other NTs opinions way more than any others when it comes to decisions that can have far reaching consequences. I am absolutely sticking with what I said earlier, the rule makes no sense (to me), I do not agree with it being on either side of it (i.e. below or above 500 posts). It is up to me to decide who and when (how many posts) do I want to talk to someone. A heavy handed arbitrary one-rule fits-nobody is very bad.


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So, I have a question for u intpj......

Why are you here???
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LOL, of course you are, probably with a whip

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and I took the test again...and got a different result.....lol
interesting.....dontcha think????
Well, post it for all to see. Of course it is interesting.
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LOL, of course you are, probably with a whip



Well, post it for all to see. Of course it is interesting.

I'm a submissive....I prefer him to handle the whip....but only in the bedroom....lol
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So, I have a question for u intpj......
Why are you here???

Looking for my (NT) kind, if one has by mistake strayed (and made permanent residence) here.
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Looking for my (NT) kind, if one has by mistake strayed (and made permanent residence) here.

Well, u said most people on the internet are no NT's.....so where do u expect to find one????
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Well, u said most people on the internet are no NT's.....so where do u expect to find one????

Nope that is not what I said, we NTs pay a lot of attention to details, I said *dating* sites are full of NF people, there is a big difference. Internet, technical side, is dominated by NTs.


I know where to find NTs, but I am interested in finding NTs that would like to get romantically involved.. and there are no NT-only dating sites, LOL, the NFs have chased them out
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Nope that is not what I said, we NTs pay a lot of attention to details, I said *dating* sites are full of NF people, there is a big difference. Internet, technical side, is dominated by NTs.


I know where to find NTs, but I am interested in finding NTs that would like to get romantically involved.. and there are no NT-only dating sites, LOL, the NFs have chased them out

Oh, well u did quote this....."But it is really amazing that NFs are majority here (according to some other statistics they are majority on Internet dating sites)."......that is what I referring to....
You seem to put a lot of trust in statistics.....but humans are not machines and statistics are only guesses based on the data of the moment...and data collected from a few sources to boot.....not everyone can be put into a category.....
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You seem to put a lot of trust in statistics.....but humans are not machines and statistics are only guesses based on the data of the moment...and data collected from a few sources to boot.....not everyone can be put into a category.....
Well said, Red. We're people....not test results. Get to know people and don't make pre-judgments about them solely based on the reults of this test.
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Oh, well u did quote this....."But it is really amazing that NFs are majority here (according to some other statistics they are majority on Internet dating sites)."......that is what I referring to....
Quite right, the devil is in details.


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You seem to put a lot of trust in statistics.....but humans are not machines and statistics are only guesses based on the data of the moment...and data collected from a few sources to boot.....not everyone can be put into a category.....
LOL, I am a mathematician among other things Prudently used statistic is a very useful tool. As for humans not being machines, that is a topic for discussion .. but probably not on this site.

As for categorizing everything.. category is merely a guideline, it is very rare that I meet an NT I do not get along well. As a matter of fact, the most amazing relationship that I had was with an ENTJ one. On the other hand, every NF that I have met did not end well (or for that matter, did not even get off the ground!). While I am open minded I am merely sticking to what has a better chances of success (and after being whacked on the head enough times you sort of learn to avoid the whacking personalities), and that means NT for me.
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LOL, I am a mathematician among other things Prudently used statistic is a very useful tool. As for humans not being machines, that is a topic for discussion .. but probably not on this site.

As for categorizing everything.. category is merely a guideline, it is very rare that I meet an NT I do not get along well. As a matter of fact, the most amazing relationship that I had was with an ENTJ one. On the other hand, every NF that I have met did not end well (or for that matter, did not even get off the ground!). While I am open minded I am merely sticking to what has a better chances of success (and after being whacked on the head enough times you sort of learn to avoid the whacking personalities), and that means NT for me.
So do you make every potential 'date' take this test before you have dinner with her?
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Quite right, the devil is in details.




LOL, I am a mathematician among other things Prudently used statistic is a very useful tool. As for humans not being machines, that is a topic for discussion .. but probably not on this site.

As for categorizing everything.. category is merely a guideline, it is very rare that I meet an NT I do not get along well. As a matter of fact, the most amazing relationship that I had was with an ENTJ one. On the other hand, every NF that I have met did not end well (or for that matter, did not even get off the ground!). While I am open minded I am merely sticking to what has a better chances of success (and after being whacked on the head enough times you sort of learn to avoid the whacking personalities), and that means NT for me.
Lol...well good luck with that.....and yeh, I could see where the more emotional NF would not get along with the more analytical NT......but not in all circumstances because one can never really be sure of how much they actually fit into the category....
I always find it amusing that analytical begins with ANAL....my little joke, no offense intended....
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So do you make every potential 'date' take this test before you have dinner with her?
As a matter of fact, I do! Though I do not discriminate based solely on the results. It is a very useful guideline to know where the other person is coming from.
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As a matter of fact, I do! Though I do not discriminate based solely on the results. It is a very useful guideline to know where the other person is coming from.

..............well, ya got me chuckling....lol
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I always find it amusing that analytical begins with ANAL....my little joke, no offense intended....
I am rarely offended, I do resort to offensive language, if somebody uses it on me it merely reflects his personality, not mine. I have no problems with jokes (on my account), LOL, I am who I am.
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I am rarely offended, I do resort to offensive language, if somebody uses it on me it merely reflects his personality, not mine. I have no problems with jokes (on my account), LOL, I am who I am.
Sigh, that should have been: I do NOT resort to..
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I am rarely offended, I do resort to offensive language, if somebody uses it on me it merely reflects his personality, not mine. I have no problems with jokes (on my account), LOL, I am who I am.

Awww....see ya are a nice guy....with a sense of humor.....I give u cudos for that....lol
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Sigh, that should have been: I do NOT resort to..

ya made a mistake in your post???.....Off with ur head....lol
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ya made a mistake in your post???.....Off with ur head....lol

Yeah, I hate this mail-form .. I prefer to use email and take my time to express myself precisely. When you are in unfamiliar environment and type fats, you easily swallow words .. sometimes they drastically change what was meant..
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Yeah, I hate this mail-form .. I prefer to use email and take my time to express myself precisely. When you are in unfamiliar environment and type fats, you easily swallow words .. sometimes they drastically change what was meant..
How does one type fats???....lol

Yeh, I don't like typos either....I tend to use spellcheck when the mood strikes me....if not, well sometimes
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How does one type fats???....lol

Yeh, I don't like typos either....I tend to use spellcheck when the mood strikes me....if not, well sometimes

LOL, mistyping is a loot less than taking an non-NT to dinner
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