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Old 01-23-2012, 12:33 PM   #51
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how many other contenders added a 19 game winner to their starting rotation?

just one....
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Ummmm, the Astros are going to win it all for the first time in their history and last year in the NL...

(yes, I'm pretty fuckin delusional...we suck!!!...but it's still baseball...my 10 yr old has been training all winter...can't wait to get back on the field...)
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how can you people even watching national league ball? it's so...pedestrian
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it's not pedestrian, it's BASEBALL!!!!...
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it's not pedestrian, it's BASEBALL!!!!...
seriously, even the televised game looks like it's from the 70's. oh wait, maybe that's just the angle when fellatio sportscenter is on.
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how can you people even watching national league ball? it's so...pedestrian
Say what????? If by "pedestrian" you mean without the lame DH rule, and having 10 times the stratgey involving relivers, then I agree

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how many other contenders added a 19 game winner to their starting rotation?

just one....go CARDS!
The Phillies had no need to - we have them out the wazoo to begin with!
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seriously, even the televised game looks like it's from the 70's. oh wait, maybe that's just the angle when fellatio sportscenter is on.
Maybe it's your TV, maybe you should come see if it's any different on my TV...
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hey, i was in the phillie's hall of fame club for the winter classic, i could be convinced to watch a game or two there.

and finally need, i've been dying for you to ask!
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hey, i was in the phillie's hall of fame club for the winter classic, i could be convinced to watch a game or two there.

and finally need, i've been dying for you to ask!

I'll find some good archived stuff since it's not, you know, baseball season...come one over...
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how can you people even watching national league ball? it's so...pedestrian
I must be really boring then because I even like to listen to it on radio..
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It's too early for me to start ridiculing the notion of pitchers wasting a spot in a batting order with their hapless flailing. Check back after camps open.
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It's too early for me to start ridiculing the notion of pitchers wasting a spot in a batting order with their hapless flailing. Check back after camps open.
Yeah, it's better to have a game with no strategy...Boring!!!
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Yeah, it's better to have a game with no strategy...Boring!!!
When the "strategy" revolves around what to do about a guy who can't hit but is in the lineup, it's not really as impressive to me. Seriously - the "strategy" argument you NL types hang your hat on just doesn't cut it and is WAY overblown. It always begins with "do we accept the automatic out here or do something else?". It's like putting a punter on the offensive line in football, then devising an entire strategy aimed at covering up the fact that there's a punter on the offensive line!
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When the "strategy" revolves around what to do about a guy who can't hit but is in the lineup, it's not really as impressive to me. Seriously - the "strategy" argument you NL types hang your hat on just doesn't cut it and is WAY overblown. It always begins with "do we accept the automatic out here or do something else?". It's like putting a punter on the offensive line in football, then devising an entire strategy aimed at covering up the fact that there's a punter on the offensive line!

Well, good thing you don't work for MLB then. It does cut it and it's not overblown at all. It adds so much to the game from both sides. It is baseball! The DH is bullshit. Get out in the field and play some defense for christ's sakes!!! The only reason we still have it is because the union won't give up the jobs for old fat fucks who are too lazy to play the field. If the union would agree, it would have been gone a long time ago....
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the union won't give up the jobs for old fat fucks who are too lazy ..
I thought this was why the Mets still existed as a team!?
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I thought this was why the Mets still existed as a team!?
I heard the Mets were demoted to AAA to be more competitive...
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Go to neutral corners gentlemen! I can see both sides of the ongoing DH argument. Let's take Jim Thome as an example. The only thing he has left in him is the long ball, and being a Twin's fan, even that little tidbit can be disputed. He is now on a NL team roster and the problem is what to do with him? Do you let a future HOF inductee sit on the pine waiting for a chance to PH or do you take a chance with him playing a defensive position? In the meantime he is taking up a spot that maybe, just maybe another future HOF could have. The DH is an excellent place for an aging, but not ready to retire superstar to live out his career in dignity. As true baseball fans, don't we owe that to these sluggers that have given us so many moments of joy and awe?
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*wonders when hockey will make centers become goalies for the 3rd period only*......

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Go to neutral corners gentlemen! I can see both sides of the ongoing DH argument. Let's take Jim Thome as an example. The only thing he has left in him is the long ball, and being a Twin's fan, even that little tidbit can be disputed. He is now on a NL team roster and the problem is what to do with him? Do you let a future HOF inductee sit on the pine waiting for a chance to PH or do you take a chance with him playing a defensive position? In the meantime he is taking up a spot that maybe, just maybe another future HOF could have. The DH is an excellent place for an aging, but not ready to retire superstar to live out his career in dignity. As true baseball fans, don't we owe that to these sluggers that have given us so many moments of joy and awe?
Let me see if I can find the right word....(scratching my chin)....ah, I found it...NO!!!!!...


Batting is not baseball! It is not the way the game was created and it lasted over 100yrs without the DH...yeah, they tried in 1906 but no one wanted it...it took over 60yrs from when it was first thought up to become a rule and even then it only became a rule for the American League...
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Batting is not baseball! It is not the way the game was created and it lasted over 100yrs without the DH...yeah, they tried in 1906 but no one wanted it...it took over 60yrs from when it was first thought up to become a rule and even then it only became a rule for the American League...
While I usually avoid confrontations such as this, I do feel compelled to say a couple more things...
If batting is not baseball then I guess we should be satisfied with a game of catch between the pitcher and catcher. Oh muh lord, look at that fastball, he nearly knocked the catcher over...too bad there wasn't a hitter there to swing at it! I am an advocate of the purity of the sport yes, that it has remained basically unchanged since inception. However, by your description, no changes are good changes. Would you suggest the raising of the pitching mound back to the orginal measurement? Remove the ban on the spitball?
The DH rule is optional. If an AL manager chooses to leave his pitcher in the line up then he has every right to do so. I wonder why they rarely do so. Could it possibly be that these "educated students of the game" know that pitchers can't hit for shit and chicks dig the long ball?
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CAuse it is a baseball thread silly. TIgers are a fav of mine too since my Mom was from MI..
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