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Old 11-09-2013, 02:56 PM   #26
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My post was about women of any size...and I will repeat, if my clothing size matters to you you are too shallow to be friends with me.
My response was in no way directed at you.
This is just what happens ever single time a "weight" thread gets started whether it's something like this or the BBW thread.
It goes from supportive of women to a complete thrashing of women by women followed by a string of men who come in and proclaim their love of bigger women/disdain for smaller women (noted btw guys) and then inevitably I respond to the insults directed at Eating Disordered Anorexics (I am not ED but I have struggled with my image) and try to stop some hate then Jelly comes in and....well, that chapter is coming, I'm sure.
It's so frustrating.
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Old 11-09-2013, 02:59 PM   #27
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I don't know why every time the subject of weight comes up and we talk supportively about women of all sizes suddenly it has to take a dive into slamming smaller women.
Does the girls club stop being supportive and caring of each other at a certain size if that size is "less than" some calculated size or is this just some arbitrary figure?

Can't we feel good about ourselves without degrading other people?
What exactly is the bra size that no longer counts as "real woman?"
What is the pants size?
The height?
The weight?

I'm just wondering if these comments are truly speaking about "knobby kneed anorexics" who are generally in so much turmoil they are killing themselves and surely don't need added injury to their psyche or if this is about women who aren't bigger breasted or carrying extra body fat.

This comes up over and over and over so maybe someone can clarify?
Small boobie girls wanna know.

big boobs, small boobs doesnt matter
tall, short doesnt matter
size 0 or XXXXXXXL (no idea what is a large US size) doesnt matter

a "real woman" doesnt have a size or shape range
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big boobs, small boobs doesnt matter
tall, short doesnt matter
size 0 or XXXXXXXL (no idea what is a large US size) doesnt matter

a "real woman" doesnt have a size or shape range
(((((hugs)))))

It's really ridiculous for me to even comment on this subject and does f*ck all good really but I seem to lose my sense of STFU.
I need some duct tape, I guess.
There are 100's of threads I think about responding to but just say nooooooooo, I'll pass. If for no other reason than I really dislike confrontation, I'm a timid person usually.
I even avoid anti-gay posts and my son has at times thought he was gay.
This particular damn subject snares me here every time.

Surely many of the members are here because they already have a sense of rejection or self image issues or some sort of need for validation (or something) and anything that sweepingly knifes a group of us bothers me.
I'd be all upset if it was a knife to obese people as well but that shit wouldn't be acceptable here so it never happens. Not that I have seen anyway.

I'm going back to my sandbox now before I embarrass myself any further. :P
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Old 11-09-2013, 03:38 PM   #29
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What size is plus size anyway? I'm a US 10-12 (I think after googling the conversion!) I'm quite broad and have wideish hips after having 2 kids so could never be skinny even if I wanted to be. I'm happy with this, I'm quite fit and love having boobs and a butt!

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What size is plus size anyway? I'm a UK 10-12 (I think after googling the conversion!) I'm quite broad and have wideish hips after having 2 kids so could never be skinny even if I wanted to be. I'm happy with this, I'm quite fit and love having boobs and a butt!
and that is the only part that does matter
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Old 11-09-2013, 03:44 PM   #31
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so true - what really matters is the person inside. Size, race, gender, age, sexuality - none of it matters -I don't judge- as long as you're nice to me I'll be nice to you. My work can involve health screening and offering advice and referrals on weight loss for health reasons - but I would never tell anyone what to do and instead let people know what help is available to them but only if they themselves want it. Personally over the years I have been between a size 6 and a size 14 and feel comfortable where I am now at a size 10. Us women are too hard on ourselves - not helped by the media of course - but the main thing is to just be greatful you have a healthy working body and try and do what you can to appreciate, enjoy and look after it - no matter what size/build. Sounds like this Chip asshole is just trying to pass the buck and use an excuse not to get sued for his crap quality yoga pants!
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(((((hugs))))) It's really ridiculous for me to even comment on this subject and does f*ck all good really but I seem to lose my sense of STFU. I need some duct tape, I guess. There are 100's of threads I think about responding to but just say nooooooooo, I'll pass. If for no other reason than I really dislike confrontation, I'm a timid person usually. I even avoid anti-gay posts and my son has at times thought he was gay. This particular damn subject snares me here every time. Surely many of the members are here because they already have a sense of rejection or self image issues or some sort of need for validation (or something) and anything that sweepingly knifes a group of us bothers me. I'd be all upset if it was a knife to obese people as well but that shit wouldn't be acceptable here so it never happens. Not that I have seen anyway. I'm going back to my sandbox now before I embarrass myself any further. :P
I thought your points balance out the argument really well. Usually, "larger" people are arguing from a position of deficit, hence the support that may have been given in this thread.
But you're a reminder that the inclusion of one, does not need to be the exclusion of another.
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Old 11-09-2013, 04:06 PM   #33
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By society's standards....yes. I'm a by no means a size zero. Never have been & never will be. I'm fine with that.
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My response was in no way directed at you.
This is just what happens ever single time a "weight" thread gets started whether it's something like this or the BBW thread.
It goes from supportive of women to a complete thrashing of women by women followed by a string of men who come in and proclaim their love of bigger women/disdain for smaller women (noted btw guys) and then inevitably I respond to the insults directed at Eating Disordered Anorexics (I am not ED but I have struggled with my image) and try to stop some hate then Jelly comes in and....well, that chapter is coming, I'm sure.
It's so frustrating.
I am with you on this one. I used to sit back and read the BBW thread getting more and more upset until I eventually ended up having to post.

We ladies should all support each other, big or small and that goes for boobs too, coming from someone with small boobs

I'm not posting to cause drama, but I echo what Leilei says, it's not fair to 'skinny' or big' ladies. We all are what we are. Like us or not.
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Look it's true that different things attract different people. However the size of a person has nothing to do with how good or bad of a person they are. If you don't find something attractive keep on going. Nobody should judged based on size.
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If you're going to judge or depend our friendship on the size clothes or stats I have, I don't need you in my life. A person is not defined by number, whether it be their IQ, clothes size, height or whatever. We are who we are. Love us or don't.
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If you're going to judge or depend our friendship on the size clothes or stats I have, I don't need you in my life. A person is not defined by number, whether it be their IQ, clothes size, height or whatever. We are who we are. Love us or don't.
I choose yes.
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Look it's true that different things attract different people. However the size of a person has nothing to do with how good or bad of a person they are. If you don't find something attractive keep on going. Nobody should judged based on size.
Bingo, I don't get offended if someone doesn't find me attractive. It might have nothing to do with my size, not all thin people are found attractive either. We all have preferences, but when you start to take that one step further and begin judging and making assumptions, that's where you've crossed the line.
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Should we say "Minus-sized" for women of a more runway-esque build? Or how about "voluptually challenged"?
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I'm loving this thread! Thanks Redcat!

Ladies, I can only speak for myself, but I don't care what size you are. What interests me is what kind of person are you and what's in your heart. Either we can be friends or we can't. I have loved women of all shapes and sizes. Maybe their body caught my eye, maybe it didn't. You can be sure that what was on the inside got my attention. And the inside affects how I see the outside. A super-model with a shitty attitude is not attractive to me. Someone who would not generally be considered attractive will be to me if I discover a heart of gold.

Let me turn the question around. How do you ladies see us guys? Do I have to be slim and trim? Do I have to be a body builder? To be honest, I have a spare tire around the middle. Is that going to cause you to pass me by and not talk to me? Just wondering.

Great thread, my friend Redcat. Thanks!
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I've been a size 2....I'm now in double digits and a lot happier than I was as a size 2...I've learned to accept myself, my curves, my baby weight....I'm not perfect but gawd damnit I still have it goin on.....
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Hmmm, ok, well, how about it doesn't matter, particularly since we mostly will never see each other, or be seen with each other?
I'm particular to women and that is it, but I do find that I am attracted to some and not others. Doesn't seem to be driven by weight though. There are thin ladies I find attractive, and there are plus size ladies that have gotten my juices flowing. I think it's just the estrogen in the air, and which way the wind is blowing
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My response was in no way directed at you.
This is just what happens ever single time a "weight" thread gets started whether it's something like this or the BBW thread.
It goes from supportive of women to a complete thrashing of women by women followed by a string of men who come in and proclaim their love of bigger women/disdain for smaller women (noted btw guys) and then inevitably I respond to the insults directed at Eating Disordered Anorexics (I am not ED but I have struggled with my image) and try to stop some hate then Jelly comes in and....well, that chapter is coming, I'm sure.
It's so frustrating.
I know it was not directed at me hun. But I know that women of all sizes get it...thin, short,tall, plus size, etc...I know a women who struggles to keep weight on...so I was referring to women of all shapes and sizes...

I was merely pointing out that it is what is INSIDE a person's soul that matters, not the package it is wrapped in.
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It's interesting because it's not just women either. My hubs is ridiculously thin. The only time in our marriage he's been able to put on weight was when he was drinking wine like a beatnic poet.
People, even medical staff, have commented/asked if he has some sort of drug problem. No! He does not. Unless you count smoking weed, which I certainly don't.
But my point is that assumptions about people's lifestyles are often made by looking at them, regardless of your gender.
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I wish there was a way that all clothes makers across the board could make clothes sizes equal no matter what country. When living in Europe shopping sucked. I felt like I was 5 sizes larger when shopping. The tops didn't fit my boobs and the pants didn't fit my hips. Thank Goodness for US shipping and being able to shop online.

Many of us struggle with our weight in different ways. While I feel fat and hate the way I look being the heaviest in my life, but to lazy to do anything about it I am very sensitive to my sister who is extremely overweight. I am thankful that they now make some great clothes for her to wear and not being stuck in sweats.

People need to be liked and loved for the kindness in the heart not the size of their waist band!
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I wish there was a way that all clothes makers across the board could make clothes sizes equal no matter what country. When living in Europe shopping sucked. I felt like I was 5 sizes larger when shopping. The tops didn't fit my boobs and the pants didn't fit my hips. Thank Goodness for US shipping and being able to shop online.

Many of us struggle with our weight in different ways. While I feel fat and hate the way I look being the heaviest in my life, but to lazy to do anything about it I am very sensitive to my sister who is extremely overweight. I am thankful that they now make some great clothes for her to wear and not being stuck in sweats.

People need to be liked and loved for the kindness in the heart not the size of their waist band!
part of the problem is that people are different shapes in different countries
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I think what I've learned as a woman reading this thread is not to really focus on the number on the tag. Sizes are going to be labeled different based on country or store/brand. Look at how you feel, love yourself and be the best version of you that you can be every day. That's more important than the size clothing you wear.
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Not a plus size but I'm proud of my curves.. I never paid attention to the opinions I get about sizes. I eat what I like and exercise to stay healthy..
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