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Old 05-27-2010, 11:41 AM   #26
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my mouth always gets me into trouble... but I speak what is on my mind.. and the truth as I know it..

as for apologizing.. I am an expert at it.. I figure I may as well be the one to stop it all.. whether I am wrong or not.. what does it hurt to say I am sorry.. and usually I am..
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Old 05-27-2010, 11:47 AM   #27
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Old 05-27-2010, 11:51 AM   #28
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My words have gotten me into trouble.. because I am an outspoken person and well sometimes I say things without thinking.... and unfortuntely once there out there is really nothing .. a person can do.. Whats done is done...
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Old 05-27-2010, 11:59 AM   #29
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NO ladies and gents not like that. I mean have you ever said anything that u wish u hadden and its caused u grief.

Reason for asking I visited my head office on Monday which i have to do once a month and whilst there a comment was made about my sun tan as i go dark really quick in the sun. I replied with yes I always go a nice chocolate colour. Well this morning in the post I got a wriiten warning for my comment as it upset someone in the office.

Now my problem is should I just except the warning
or should i not and take it higher.

So if ur mouth has ever got u in trouble lets hear about it

I'm a Sagitarius... of course my mouth has gotten me into trouble.... I have tempered my honesty over the years to actually think before I speak..... as for your situation since you don't know who got upset about it (still don't understand why).... I would just let it go and not even spend another moment thinking about it
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Old 05-27-2010, 12:22 PM   #30
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I'm a Sagitarius... of course my mouth has gotten me into trouble.... I have tempered my honesty over the years to actually think before I speak..... as for your situation since you don't know who got upset about it (still don't understand why).... I would just let it go and not even spend another moment thinking about it
no can do pretty lady as I don't like offending or upsetting people so i will have to see it out When i get the answer to why it offended and who then if i really think i need to sorry i will
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no can do pretty lady as I don't like offending or upsetting people so i will have to see it out When i get the answer to why it offended and who then if i really think i need to sorry i will

That is up to you but I have been working customer service for a really long time and people just need to vent. The person probably got into a fight with their spouse or kid that morning and was it a rotten mood. One word from you set them off and they said something.

I guarantee you that whoever complained has already gotten over it.
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Old 05-27-2010, 12:31 PM   #32
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lol yep proably right just i don't like having a wriiten warning on my file for something that was not ment to offend anyone
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Honestly everyday! I have the worst case of diarrhea of the mouth at times. I cant help myself...it is compulsive really. It sucks because the second the words leave my mouth or in some cases my finger pushes send... I get that sinking "awwwww shit I am an ass feeling"...
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it has also been used to get me out of trouble...
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i will sleep on it MG but i think u may be right. I will say sorry to who it maybe but only if the written warning is taken of my file if not no chance I will firght it to the top.
I'll preface all this with the disclaimer that I am in the USA, and have no idea what the differences are in fighting these battles in the UK. That said:

I agree with you on this one. It was a stupid, baseless, complaint, but I've also been Management/HR/Management advisory in enough positions to know that the ones who say it's easiest to just apologize and let it drop are FOR THE MOST PART correct. But I've also seen a lot of good people's records and even careers ruined over just such a stupid act by some jackass with nothing better to do and no other way to feel big about themselves. As you suggest, why SHOULD you apologize for a FACTUAL statement (at all really, but in reality if it will not clear your record? Time to fight in that case!

Helpful hint: If you have to fight, head to the nearest candy counter and buy a couple of bars that are the closest to your skin hue to take with you to that meeting with HR! Kind of hard to argue with cold, hard FACT. But they will anyway.

You should also (ONLY if you have to fight, otherwise it's not worth it) force the person issuing the warning to state, or better, have the offended party state, in EXACTLY what way it was an offensive comment (I don't know how it works over there, but over here, you usually have a right to face the accuser in such a case). My bet is, they can't actually give you a reason. You didn't make a comparative or derogatory statement about a given race, class, etc. You made a fact-based statement about a color chart. End of story. And you might threaten a counter charge if they can't reasonably back their claim. If your organization has "neutral" counselors available (we did in the military) consult one of them before you do anything.

Good luck.

And keep your temper in check. Think courtroom decorum. Emotionless, factual dissertation only.
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I'll preface all this with the disclaimer that I am in the USA, and have no idea what the differences are in fighting these battles in the UK. That said:

I agree with you on this one. It was a stupid, baseless, complaint, but I've also been Management/HR/Management advisory in enough positions to know that the ones who say it's easiest to just apologize and let it drop are FOR THE MOST PART correct. But I've also seen a lot of good people's records and even careers ruined over just such a stupid act by some jackass with nothing better to do and no other way to feel big about themselves. As you suggest, why SHOULD you apologize for a FACTUAL statement (at all really, but in reality if it will not clear your record? Time to fight in that case!

Helpful hint: If you have to fight, head to the nearest candy counter and buy a couple of bars that are the closest to your skin hue to take with you to that meeting with HR! Kind of hard to argue with cold, hard FACT. But they will anyway.

You should also (ONLY if you have to fight, otherwise it's not worth it) force the person issuing the warning to state, or better, have the offended party state, in EXACTLY what way it was an offensive comment (I don't know how it works over there, but over here, you usually have a right to face the accuser in such a case). My bet is, they can't actually give you a reason. You didn't make a comparative or derogatory statement about a given race, class, etc. You made a fact-based statement about a color chart. End of story. And you might threaten a counter charge if they can't reasonably back their claim. If your organization has "neutral" counselors available (we did in the military) consult one of them before you do anything.

Good luck.

And keep your temper in check. Think courtroom decorum. Emotionless, factual dissertation only.
Denny thanks very much for your post I have already pull wheels in motion I have asked for a meeting with my line manager first before i go any where near HR AS for some reason my line manager was not notified of the complaint and not informed that a written warning was being sent to me. So will see what the out come of this meeting brings. As to keeping my temper in check that is not a problem as I am very laid back but this has so annoyed me Many thanks again for the information in ur post
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Old 05-27-2010, 03:58 PM   #38
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my mouth ever get me into trouble??? never ever...yeah right if you believe that bullshit I will tell ya some more!!!


I am always getting myself in trouble with my mouth...
told the old man last weekend if I found anymore bottles in the car...I was going to the 1st SGT...boy was he pissed....

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My mouth has got me in trouble....My mother always told me it would, and she was right. Its a different world today as now, It can be dangerous to speak your mind, Im trying to hold back a bit now and think before I speak. Not a easy thing to do.
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My mouth ever gotten me in trouble? Naaahhhhh....butter wouldn't melt in my mouth!
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You made an innocent remark; you know there was no ambiguity associated with it; therefore, you have nothing to prove. I say do what you must to make this right.
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yes but my mouth is talented, so what ever i F up....I can always charm my way back into good graces in many different ways
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