Google 'Street View' was also reading your chats.

LuckySometime · 04-15-2012, 03:09 PM

While Google was driving around taking pictures of your front yard it was apparently also collecting your emails and chats off your unencrypted wifi networks. Yikes! The government is investigating and is getting pissed at Google's stonewalling -- so mad they've slammed the $154 Billion company with a measly 25 thousand dollar fine.

"European and Canadian regulators who have examined the data Google collected in the project in their own countries found that it included complete e-mail messages, instant messages, chat sessions, conversations between lovers, and Web addresses revealing sexual orientation, information that could be linked to specific street addresses."

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/15/te...ollection.html

Curiousoneonly · 04-15-2012, 03:15 PM

Nosey sons of bitches!

I didn't read the article, but WTH?!

redcat · 04-15-2012, 03:16 PM

Oh great!! Just what I wanted to hear. Why don't they just knock on the door and say, "excuse me, I'm here to assure you that what you had hoped to hide from prying eyes you can now stress and worry about forever. We're now going to collect everything you have on your computer, for possible use against you at a date yet to be determined".

Myeyessmile · 04-15-2012, 03:16 PM

Why did the government get mad? We're they jealous of all the action Google was getting reading all the chats?

scoobertina · 04-15-2012, 03:19 PM

well dang it anyhow... I had some great material long after they came by my house... as a matter of fact I had awesome stuff... even thinking about it now makes me a lil wet..

anyhow..when they came by my house.. they'd be disappointed... I was seriously behaving in those days... and my ex was a monk... especially when it came to online.. now if they wanted a porn collection.. hmmm wonder where that went..

Mrs_SuthernBell · 04-15-2012, 03:22 PM

Glad my WiFi is blocked & password protected, I did that for my saftey from the start!

LuckySometime · 04-15-2012, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs_SuthernBell

Glad my WiFi is blocked & password protected, I did that for my saftey from the start!

I hope it was encrypted too -- that was the barrier they mentioned.

madmax · 04-15-2012, 03:59 PM

if google collected sensitive information then it was already out there for every tom dick and harry to see in the first place.

turn on WPA or WPA2 (WEP if you must but it isnt secure) protection NOW

Beccs · 04-15-2012, 04:01 PM

LOVE my secure wifi

cockandbull · 04-15-2012, 09:40 PM

The government is pissed because Google is sticking its nose in their business, or is it my business. Now the wife is pissed because the government and Google are sticking their nose in my business, which as we all know, is the wife's business!

redwing · 04-15-2012, 09:48 PM

I think the fine should have been higher, much higher

spare_change · 04-16-2012, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by LuckySometime

I hope it was encrypted too -- that was the barrier they mentioned.

It is against the law to use an encryption code in the US without first providing the code to the NSA. Google uses commercial encryption code, just like your router or computer.

When the spy is the US government - there is no protection with encryption.

LuckySometime · 04-16-2012, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by spare_change

It is against the law to use an encryption code in the US without first providing the code to the NSA. Google uses commercial encryption code, just like your router or computer.

When the spy is the US government - there is no protection with encryption.

This is more accurate: Collecting encrypted data is a crime. Google only collected unencrypted data. Therefore, if your wifi network was encrypted you were safe from Google's prying.

gdgrl · 04-16-2012, 01:07 PM

For any of us who thinks there is such thing as privacy anyway, they are sadly mistaken.

catman301 · 04-16-2012, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by gdgrl

For any of us who thinks there is such thing as privacy anyway, they are sadly mistaken.

Unless you live in the woods, have no social security #, no cell phone or computer....they know every move you make, thats how they make thier money. Its a scary world we live in.

gdgrl · 04-16-2012, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by catman301

Unless you live in the woods, have no social security #, no cell phone or computer....they know every move you make, thats how they make thier money. Its a scary world we live in.

I hate to say I agree without sounding like a paranoid freak. I don't worry, there's nothing I can do, but if Google can come to my front door and take a pic and the cell company can track my whereabouts, that is no comparison to what the Government can do.

LuckySometime · 04-16-2012, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by gdgrl

I hate to say I agree without sounding like a paranoid freak. I don't worry, there's nothing I can do, but if Google can come to my front door and take a pic and the cell company can track my whereabouts, that is no comparison to what the Government can do.

To be fair, it was government regulations that prevented Google (and every other data mining company) from snooping anywhere it felt like. And it is government that's putting the brakes on the operation now and holding them accountable.

gdgrl · 04-16-2012, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by LuckySometime

To be fair, it was government regulations that prevented Google (and every other data mining company) from snooping anywhere it felt like. And it is government that's putting the brakes on the operation now and holding them accountable.

That doesn't mean they don't have their own capabilities.

disturbiagirl · 04-16-2012, 03:27 PM

bring it on I say....there are only so many variations of a cyber session, so they'd be pretty blase' about it by the time they got to MY chat sessions

SpecialK · 04-16-2012, 03:31 PM

....is that why I have random people applauding as they pass my house?

LuckySometime · 04-16-2012, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by disturbiagirl

bring it on I say....there are only so many variations of a cyber session, so they'd be pretty blase' about it by the time they got to MY chat sessions

Challenge accepted.

LuckySometime · 04-16-2012, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spare_change

It is against the law to use an encryption code in the US without first providing the code to the NSA. Google uses commercial encryption code, just like your router or computer.

When the spy is the US government - there is no protection with encryption.

Just curious, spare, do you think the government regulations on this kind of snooping by Google should be stricter, are too strict, or just about right?

spare_change · 04-16-2012, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by LuckySometime

Just curious, spare, do you think the government regulations on this kind of snooping by Google should be stricter, are too strict, or just about right?

I think that Google should be taken to court for violation of privacy ... my business is my business.

But then, I think the government should be taken to court for exactly the same thing.

As I said earlier, it is against federal law to use an encryption algorithm that is not registered with the National Security Agency ... some would say that is a good defensive move because it prevents anyone from passing critical data without NSA having the ability to monitor it. I, on the other hand, believe that gives NSA the ability to listen in on ALL communications ... a concept that makes me very uncomfortable.

LuckySometime · 04-16-2012, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spare_change

I think that Google should be taken to court for violation of privacy ... my business is my business.

But then, I think the government should be taken to court for exactly the same thing.

As I said earlier, it is against federal law to use an encryption algorithm that is not registered with the National Security Agency ... some would say that is a good defensive move because it prevents anyone from passing critical data without NSA having the ability to monitor it. I, on the other hand, believe that gives NSA the ability to listen in on ALL communications ... a concept that makes me very uncomfortable.

I'm just curious, that's all. There's no right or wrong answer. It sounds like you're saying the government restrictions are about right in this case, right?

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