40 years of feminism...?

Singeon · 06-02-2009, 12:38 PM

Its been nearly 40 years since feminism took a hold on western society...what changes has it produced..do women feel it's given them any more power now than before?...

less?...

changed the way you can live your lives?

changed mens way of thinking?...

tell us what you think, ladies....

Singeon · 06-08-2009, 02:16 AM

A week later and not one opinion on something as momentous as the Feminist revolution?...a thread about "showing respect" draws so many responses and yet the decades long quest for "respect" by half the population from the other half can't raise a squeak....

Pretty sad really.

~freshly~ · 06-08-2009, 05:43 AM

Feminism?? wtf there is such a word?
Sadly, Singeon....the revolution has not yet reached our shores...a married woman is regarded as SLIGHTLY above a cow here..<HEY! cows are hell of a important so don't knock it!>
Single ladies? They are under the care of their parents until such time they are handed over to a 'suitable' man! There are exceptions of course...but from personal experience...well I needed a SUITCASE of certified documents just to open a bank account recently...and then my DH had to be present when they presented me with my card & cheque book.....
at home I wear the pants though

....

yaser · 06-08-2009, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ~freshly~

Feminism?? wtf there is such a word?
Sadly, Singeon....the revolution has not yet reached our shores...a married woman is regarded as SLIGHTLY above a cow here..<HEY! cows are hell of a important so don't knock it!>
Single ladies? They are under the care of their parents until such time they are handed over to a 'suitable' man! There are exceptions of course...but from personal experience...well I needed a SUITCASE of certified documents just to open a bank account recently...and then my DH had to be present when they presented me with my card & cheque book.....
at home I wear the pants though

....

Freshly, we have a poet Nazım Hikmet.In one of his poems he wrote:
Our women..Their place comes after of oxens..But nowadays there are some changes but again the situations are awful.

spare_change · 06-08-2009, 11:35 AM

Sorry --- I come to your thread late.

I think the feminist movement, while rooted in appropriate ideals and concepts, has had a decidedly negative effect on our society. The feminist movement was hijacked for some with political goals.

The demasculinization of the American male has led to more children without fathers, more one-parent homes, and a shirking of responsibility, whether it be moral, financial, or societal.

(Think that will get them started?)

Shawn · 06-08-2009, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by spare_change

Sorry --- I come to your thread late.

I think the feminist movement, while rooted in appropriate ideals and concepts, has had a decidedly negative effect on our society. The feminist movement was hijacked for some with political goals.

The demasculinization of the American male has led to more children without fathers, more one-parent homes, and a shirking of responsibility, whether it be moral, financial, or societal.

(Think that will get them started?)

I knew that bonus buy bag of popcorn would come in handy

Sneaky · 06-08-2009, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Singeon

A week later and not one opinion on something as momentous as the Feminist revolution?...a thread about "showing respect" draws so many responses and yet the decades long quest for "respect" by half the population from the other half can't raise a squeak....

Pretty sad really.

There actually is a Feminism thread somewhere around here...I was going to comment on this, but your question is pretty broad....

The demasculinization of the American male? *Sigh* Shaking head. I can't do it today. I just can't do. I don't have it in me. I'm walking away from this one.

Shawn · 06-08-2009, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Sneaky

There actually is a Feminism thread somewhere around here...I was going to comment on this, but your question is pretty broad....

The demasculinization of the American male? *Sigh* Shaking head. I can't do it today. I just can't do. I don't have it in me. I'm walking away from this one.

And here I thought I was the only one out of energy from the weekend

Sneaky · 06-08-2009, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Shawn_N_Sandiego

And here I thought I was the only one out of energy from the weekend

Yeah. LOL. You KNOW I'm out of energy when there is an intro like THAT and I don't even get out my soapbox!

Shawn · 06-08-2009, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Sneaky

Yeah. LOL. You KNOW I'm out of energy when there is an intro like THAT and I don't even get out my soapbox!

I was about to start asking you questions to figure out who hacked into your account

Han Solo · 06-08-2009, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Singeon

Its been nearly 40 years since feminism took a hold on western society...what changes has it produced..do women feel it's given them any more power now than before?...

less?...

changed the way you can live your lives?

changed mens way of thinking?...

tell us what you think, ladies....

Hasn't really been that long in the process for my adult life...(if I have an adult life that is I spoze

)......but at least there's ONE F-word I can call a woman and not have her get pissed

spare_change · 06-08-2009, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sneaky

There actually is a Feminism thread somewhere around here...I was going to comment on this, but your question is pretty broad....

The demasculinization of the American male? *Sigh* Shaking head. I can't do it today. I just can't do. I don't have it in me. I'm walking away from this one.

Awww, come on! You don't think I'd make an outlandish statement like that for no reason, do you? (They call it "stimulating the discussion"). I'm going to be real disappointed if someone doesn't react (of course, around here, they beat up the poster, not the post).

Han Solo · 06-08-2009, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by spare_change

Awww, come on! You don't think I'd make an outlandish statement like that for no reason, do you? (They call it "stimulating the discussion"). I'm going to be real disappointed if someone doesn't react (of course, around here, they beat up the poster, not the post).

REALLY?? I swore that was actually called Cyber Bullying??

...or so I've heard anyway

spare_change · 06-08-2009, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Han Solo

REALLY?? I swore that was actually called Cyber Bullying??

...or so I've heard anyway

"Cyberbullying involves the use of information and communication technologies to support deliberate and hostile behaviour by an individual or group, that is intended to harm others."

Hardly applies, wouldn't you say?

fever · 06-08-2009, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spare_change

Sorry --- I come to your thread late.

I think the feminist movement, while rooted in appropriate ideals and concepts, has had a decidedly negative effect on our society. The feminist movement was hijacked for some with political goals.

The demasculinization of the American male has led to more children without fathers, more one-parent homes, and a shirking of responsibility, whether it be moral, financial, or societal.

(Think that will get them started?)

I agree! I actually think we should see what we can do to turn things back to the way they should have been all along...

Sneaky · 06-08-2009, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spare_change

Awww, come on! You don't think I'd make an outlandish statement like that for no reason, do you? (They call it "stimulating the discussion"). I'm going to be real disappointed if someone doesn't react (of course, around here, they beat up the poster, not the post).

LOL! Trust me I know all about the poster getting beat up for the post. Maybe tomorrow I'll argue with you on that one. I could truly go for days on it, but I've had a hell of a week and it's only Monday. Don't tell the other feminists. I'll fight the good fight another day.

stellabelle · 06-08-2009, 06:58 PM

I am not a feminist, but I do believe women are unfairly penalized for being born female. At this point in time, there should be equality in pay and position in the workplace. But it's still severely lacking.

Then I see all the woman who wants to be a stay at home mom's and can't because the housing market has gone up so much more than the rate of pay, it takes two incomes to make a mortgage payment. Did the woman's movement do this? I often wonder. The more equality we want the more the "ideal" woman is pushed down our throats on every magazine cover in the free world. This is because we have bought into the ideal and buy the freaking things -- me included. Are we are own worst enemy? Young girls feel the need to use their bodies to get a young boy to like them. This is unthinkable to me, but it's happening everywhere.

In the end, I really don't know if we've done ourselves any real justice. We're still dealing with the equality issue as much as ever. There is some hope. The luxury car industry finally got the clue that the majority of luxury car buyers are the 40-something woman. A few are finally catering to this demographic, like Cadillac. I canceled all my magazine subscriptions and am sticking to books. I got tired of not measuring up and finally realized, I don't have too.

Just my thoughts on the subject...

06-02-2009, 12:38 PM	#1
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spare_change Purveyor of Perversion Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Colorado Age: 63 Posts: 16,719 My Mood: Thanks: 195 Thanked 738 Times in 424 Posts Blog Entries: 5	Sorry --- I come to your thread late. I think the feminist movement, while rooted in appropriate ideals and concepts, has had a decidedly negative effect on our society. The feminist movement was hijacked for some with political goals. The demasculinization of the American male has led to more children without fathers, more one-parent homes, and a shirking of responsibility, whether it be moral, financial, or societal. (Think that will get them started?) __________________ "It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." --Samuel Adams

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stellabelle Mad Hatter Join Date: May 2008 Location: Wonderland, with Alice Age: 45 Posts: 11,749 My Mood: Thanks: 3,145 Thanked 2,610 Times in 1,916 Posts	I am not a feminist, but I do believe women are unfairly penalized for being born female. At this point in time, there should be equality in pay and position in the workplace. But it's still severely lacking. Then I see all the woman who wants to be a stay at home mom's and can't because the housing market has gone up so much more than the rate of pay, it takes two incomes to make a mortgage payment. Did the woman's movement do this? I often wonder. The more equality we want the more the "ideal" woman is pushed down our throats on every magazine cover in the free world. This is because we have bought into the ideal and buy the freaking things -- me included. Are we are own worst enemy? Young girls feel the need to use their bodies to get a young boy to like them. This is unthinkable to me, but it's happening everywhere. In the end, I really don't know if we've done ourselves any real justice. We're still dealing with the equality issue as much as ever. There is some hope. The luxury car industry finally got the clue that the majority of luxury car buyers are the 40-something woman. A few are finally catering to this demographic, like Cadillac. I canceled all my magazine subscriptions and am sticking to books. I got tired of not measuring up and finally realized, I don't have too. Just my thoughts on the subject... __________________

06-08-2009, 02:16 AM	#2
Singeon Kickin' back...:-) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: An amazing, exotic, timeless land..far, far away. Age: 52 Posts: 3,209 My Mood: Thanks: 264 Thanked 572 Times in 444 Posts	A week later and not one opinion on something as momentous as the Feminist revolution?...a thread about "showing respect" draws so many responses and yet the decades long quest for "respect" by half the population from the other half can't raise a squeak.... Pretty sad really.